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Comment by davidstorm posted on Little bit upset... at 19/10/2012 - 22:25
If you get really rich and need an assistant give me a call and I'll be there like a shot
You might be able to get that 645 now!!
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David
Comment by davidstorm posted on Some good news at last at 19/10/2012 - 22:24
I thought I'd have a go at working on No 2, not too easy as there's such a blue cast, so not a good place to start from, but this is what I did:

I think the trap that everyone is falling into here is trying to make it look what your mind thisnks is 'Natural', but this is impossible if you weren't there. As I said in an earlier post, even though most will feel that image 2 looks unnatural, it is actually much closer to how the scene was in real life than image 1 is. The light at the time was indeed very blue; to most people that will not be familiar and therefore does not look natural.
I hope this makes some sense.
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David
Comment by davidstorm posted on Our Great Photo Processing Shootout! at 19/10/2012 - 18:33
If you copy both of these into Photoshop (or PSE8 in my case) and then simply save them as JEPGs without any processing at best quality, the file size for No 1 is 161kB and for No 2 is 153kB. The greater JPEG compression for No 2 suggests that there is greater duplication in the image and hence less detail.
Andrew
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David
Comment by davidstorm posted on Our Great Photo Processing Shootout! at 19/10/2012 - 18:28
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Comment by davidstorm posted on Our Great Photo Processing Shootout! at 19/10/2012 - 16:35
Image 2 was processed in ACR and Photoshop, and has not had the blues emphasised at all (there has been a tweak to vibrance and a very small saturation increase across the board, but absolutely no adjustments to the relative blue levels). The blue tinge on the trees is consistent with the original RAW File, and is a consequence of the light at that time in the morning.
I fully agree with the comments that Image 1 has far greater detail in the mist and is overall a more pleasing / detailed image which does look more natural if you don't have the benefit of knowing what the scene actually looked like in real life. For example, on the bottom right where the reeds are, Image 1 is more brightly lit here (as if the sun is on the reeds) and also there is detail of different colours in the water near the reeds. This makes the image more pleasing, however in real life, this was not visible; the reeds were in near darkness and there was very little definition in the water surface, and this is more accurately rendered in Image 2.
I think this test does demonstrate there are massive differences between software for processing, but also that human perception and decisions play a huge part. A better test would be for the same person to process the image on 2 different program flows (Nigel, could you do this?) and then compare the results.
If I had been asked to judge between the two, without having the benefit of taking the image, I would also have chosen Image 1. My sincere thanks to Nigel, who did a superb job of processing the file and to everyone who has commented on the results.
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David
Comment by davidstorm posted on Our Great Photo Processing Shootout! at 19/10/2012 - 15:31
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Comment by davidstorm posted on Introducing Donald at 18/10/2012 - 20:48
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Comment by davidstorm posted on K-x at 18/10/2012 - 20:43
The results of the processing have been fascinating for me. One RAW image, two very different results. Please choose your favourite image by voting. You are of course very welcome to leave your comments too, but what we are most interested in is simply, which image do you like the best, which do you find the most attractive and which do you ultimately perceive to be the best quality? This is a difficult one for me as I know what the scene looked like at the time, clearly Nigel and yourselves do not.
Without further ado, here they are:
Image 1

Image 2

Thanks in advance for your comments and votes!
Best wishes
David
Comment by davidstorm posted on Our Great Photo Processing Shootout! at 18/10/2012 - 20:37
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Comment by davidstorm posted on WB (mystery to me anyway) at 16/10/2012 - 23:08


Some of my images have been published in a local cultural magazine... I know the guys who run it... My name has not appeared on the front page list for contributors... Bit miffed...
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David