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Comment by ChrisA posted on Newbie getting the hang of DoF (2 images) at 13/08/2010 - 18:59
It appears that you were intending to get the foreground in focus, and the background out of focus.
If this is so, then you've pretty much achieved it (although the fencing isn't really sharp), apparently focusing on the closer parts of the subject, and using a relatively wide aperture to ensure that the distance range over which objects appear in focus, is short. Hence you've got an out-of-focus background.
But that's just my inference from how the photos appear, and from the EXIF data embedded in the images themselves.
So, over to you. What, in detail, were you trying to achieve, how did you go about it, and to what extent do you feel your objectives were met?
Comment by ChrisA posted on Newbie getting the hang of DoF (2 images) at 13/08/2010 - 18:36
North American T-6 Harvard
CAC Boomerang
PBY Catalina
P2 Neptune
Never even heard of the other two
Comment by ChrisA posted on Lens Hood for Pentax 55-300 DAL at 13/08/2010 - 15:25
I took that with a grain of salt and carried my own rough experiment. At Albion Park aerodrome at the HARS hangars - the three hangars are a total length of 210 metres. I pre-focused on The Illawarra Fly a tourist attraction on top of the escarpment many mile away without re-focussing I then stood at the Eastern end the hangars and took photo along the line of the hangars and found that ground equipment near the western end of the hangar were sharp.
I definitely agree that pre-focusing and then leaving the focus alone will be better than winding the ring round to its infinity stop.
But if this theory were right, and the lens was focused at infinity most of the time, I'd expect almost all my airshow shots to be sharp, whereas in fact, I have an enormous number that are just slightly out of focus.
I'd also expect the AF to be doing nothing at all while following moving aircraft, and in actual fact you can hear it adjusting on every half-press (or indeed almost continuously with AF-C).
So I'm not convinced. I might do some experiments of my own when I get a chance. Thanks for coming back on this one.
Edit... BTW... I notice that your shots above are taken at F16, F11, F11 and F9.5 respectively. So DOF may contribute a lot there. Jury's still out round here!!
PS... What are the 2nd and last aircraft?
Comment by ChrisA posted on Lens Hood for Pentax 55-300 DAL at 13/08/2010 - 14:13
Obviously, if the picture is intended to document a very specific story, then as much or as little supplementary information as appropriate is perfectly fine.
The trouble with captions is that it forces you to look at a picture in a particular way. For factual documentary, this is a good thing.
But as soon as you move away from this, the caption overlays one's impression with the photographer's. My preference is usually to not have this - and as Ted says, it does often strike me that it's compensating somehow. Not always of course - 'September morning west of Keswick' would be fine, whereas I'd balk at 'Misty dreaming', for a landscape shot in the Lake District shortly after dawn.
Particularly for the comps - if what links the photo to the theme is so tenuous as to need one, one might almost argue that a caption constitutes an unfair advantage.
Comment by ChrisA posted on Does an Image Need a Caption? at 12/08/2010 - 11:58
I do kind of agree with ChrisA, but older wiser heads than I constantly bang on about the 3D quality from legendary lenses like the 31 and 77 Ltds. It isn't just because they are fast is it?
Joking apart, I wouldn't be at all surprised if some very good lenses, that can achieve a very sharp foreground, coupled with a very smooth, non-distracting, OOF background, illustrate the effect better than others.
But no-one's claiming a '3D' effect at F16, where everything's sharp, surely?
Comment by ChrisA posted on Newest info 645D at 12/08/2010 - 11:45
...at most airshows the crowd line is far enough away from the aeroplanes that the camera will be focussing on infinity all the time. If you prefocus on infinity switch to MF you might have more luck.
Here's a test I just did. I live close to the Heathrow inbound flight path, and the aircraft were coming past at a range of a little more than half a mile - *much* further away than airshow aircraft.
K10D, DA 55-300 (@300mm), F8. Tripod.
Here's the full frame, focused using AF-S:
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/chris5gd/Technical/FocusOnInfinityTest/IMGP1722.jpg[/IMG]
Here's a 100% crop:
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/chris5gd/Technical/FocusOnInfinityTest/IMGP1722-crop.jpg[/IMG]
Next up, lens at infinity, MF:
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/chris5gd/Technical/FocusOnInfinityTest/IMGP1723.jpg[/IMG]
100% crop:
[IMG]http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t244/chris5gd/Technical/FocusOnInfinityTest/IMGP1723-crop.jpg[/IMG]
There are two reasons why the infinity/MF approach is doomed:
1. Focusing rings can be rotated beyond infinity anyway, by unpredictable amounts.
2. The aircraft are nowhere near far enough away for the difference between their actual distance and infinity to be insignificant. My experiment was at a range of a bit over half a mile; at airshows they're *much* closer than that.
What is perfectly valid, is getting it focused at the distance they're coming past, and then, if they're reliably at that distance, switching to MF and leaving the focus where it is. It's easy to move it accidentally, and personally, I don't find airshow flight paths reliable enough for this, as I've said before, but your experience may be different from this.
Comment by ChrisA posted on Lens Hood for Pentax 55-300 DAL at 12/08/2010 - 09:06
Definitely seeing a 3D quality, especially in shot 1.
Comment by ChrisA posted on Newest info 645D at 11/08/2010 - 15:26
[quote="Cayman's pictures"]
Focal Length: 55.0mm (35mm equivalent: 43mm)
[/quote]Made me smile, anyway..
Comment by ChrisA posted on Newest info 645D at 11/08/2010 - 12:54
I am interested in how one gets smears and other liquid/greasy dirt on a sensor
The Arctic Butterfly didn't touch it, and I had to resort to a wet clean.
I can only assume I was particularly unlucky when changing lenses outside at some point.
Comment by ChrisA posted on Dirty Sensor at 11/08/2010 - 08:26


What will you advise in order to get sharp photos next time please?
- Change the settings so that you're no longer using hard contrast and hard sharpness. Use medium settings instead.
- Forget about depth of field for now
- Set the camera to use the centre auto-focus point
- Pick a subject in the middle of the frame, and take several shots of it. Ensure that for each one...
... it is far enough away (the camera can't focus at all, closer than a certain minimum distance).
... you have focus confirmation (steady green hexagon in viewfinder). If the hexagon is flashing, the camera has not been able to focus.
... the Shake Reduction is on, and has stabilised ('hand' icon in viewfinder).
Then, look at it on the computer, and learn to judge what is sharp, and what is not. Post a couple of examples of what you think is sharp... and tell us what you were trying to achieve for each one.
Once you can reliably get the main subject in focus, it'll be worth moving on to controlling the out-of-focus areas of the picture.