Glad to see the red rose below the white one! I was only a few weeks of age when my mother took me South but I am a Yorkshireman. Born in Maltby. Lancashire, well the M6 passes through, `nough said.

Cedric D Hartley

Stefan is one of our brothers from the Nethelands, his English is a lot better than my Dutch. Anyway to continue HG`s topic, i`ve just had my first three fingers of Scotch! No. not that way! (vertical fingers not horizontal)

cedric

No, i have never said all Pentax compacts are suspect. The W80 is not fit for purpose and it`s not just me saying it. The pentax appointed repair folk are unable to fix the issue of IQ. Look on the net for more info, what concerns me is that Pentax are unable/unwilling to either admit the problem or cure it. Now how close is the W90? Did they have to come up with a new model because of the serious failings of the prvious model? Is it just as bad, nobody knows yet. Am I put off Pentax? No, but I am very sceptical about their quality issues because of my experience with the W80. I have a K10 and a K20 and there is every possibilty that they will see me out. I suppose I am constantly raising the issue in the hope that others wont waste their money. If the W90 is a whole lot better I might be tempted. I seriously like the ergonomics of the W80, it can be operated quite well with one hand and with an additional lanyard it sits nicely inside my flotation aid. Incidentally the previous model never had IQ issues according to the repairers. The only repairs they have to do is the replacement of screens etc. caused by physical damage.

Cedric

Twas me! I tried linear, can't remember exactly what the results were but I ended up with a circular Hoya at £39 from Warehouse Express. Results are champion.

Andrew i have a K10 and I want a K100!

Cedric

Tozza27, you speak true sense. We pay too much to advertise giant corporations. I think it`s fine to support a brand but that`s where it stops for me.

Cedric

Womble! get out there and for your penance take only a Pentax, take some real shots. Relive life and don`t be tempted with other makes. you know it makes sense.

Cedric

Is that a little grey cat staked out in the midday sun?

Cedric

£15.00, bit steep for what should be a freebie for advertising.

Cedric

Got it in one Gwyn. If the W80 was my first Pentax i would never buy another Pentax product. It is awfully bad and nothing can be done with it>

Cedric