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Comment by bjolester posted on Pentax 67ii metering, exposure, MLU at 28/03/2012 - 15:35
I have yet another 67ii question. Yesterday I had my first two 120 films processed and scanned. Some of my photos were overexposed, whilst others were very good in terms of exposure.
I used aperture priority mode, 400ASA film and shot hand held, using MLU for most of my shots. I guess I might have moved the camera in the timespan between locking up the mirror and pressing the release button. Does the metering in aperture priority mode function after the mirror has been locked-up?
The 67ii manual does not have any information about my question, so am grateful for any advice on this matter!
Bjørn
I used aperture priority mode, 400ASA film and shot hand held, using MLU for most of my shots. I guess I might have moved the camera in the timespan between locking up the mirror and pressing the release button. Does the metering in aperture priority mode function after the mirror has been locked-up?
The 67ii manual does not have any information about my question, so am grateful for any advice on this matter!
Bjørn
Comment by bjolester posted on Pentax 67ii metering, exposure, MLU at 28/03/2012 - 12:57
johnha wrote:
Hi Bjorn,
Looks like you've got some great kit there. My preference is for colour transparency film because they're big enough to view direcly on a lightbox (and because prints are expensive). I think they scan better than negatives too.
MF is great to slow down your photography, just be careful not to take too much kit out with you to the point where you get too tired to think about your photography. I've dragged a heavy bag on one shoulder, tripod on the other to the point where I'd just lost interest. Camera, one lens, tripod and film is all you sometimes need.
Getting used to the film handling is important, and unil you're confident, you may want to consider finding somewhere sheltered to change rolls.
And don't forget to share some of your shots.
John.
John.
Thank you, the Pentax 67ii kit I found is really nice. The previous owner, an amateur photographer, bought it new in 2000, and had only taken 30-50 or so rolls of film with it. Hi Bjorn,
Looks like you've got some great kit there. My preference is for colour transparency film because they're big enough to view direcly on a lightbox (and because prints are expensive). I think they scan better than negatives too.
MF is great to slow down your photography, just be careful not to take too much kit out with you to the point where you get too tired to think about your photography. I've dragged a heavy bag on one shoulder, tripod on the other to the point where I'd just lost interest. Camera, one lens, tripod and film is all you sometimes need.
Getting used to the film handling is important, and unil you're confident, you may want to consider finding somewhere sheltered to change rolls.
And don't forget to share some of your shots.
John.
John.
Colour transparency film would be interesting to try out, the only drawback is that not many labs in Norway process them anymore. Most photo shops here send transparency film to Europe for processing. It will probably also be quite a bit more expensive here than colour negative film both to purchase and process. By the way, is there such a thing as a 6x7 slide-projector?
The issue of film handling is one I that am most concerned with. For now I stay close to my car, so I can change film inside the car. Hopefully I will gain more proficiency and become more confident with film handling, so that I dare to change film also outdoors
Bjørn
Comment by bjolester posted on 67II worth buying? at 10/03/2012 - 05:58
Thank you very much johnha for taking time to give me such valuable advice! At the end of February I in fact purchased a Pentax 67ii system with SMC 45mm, 105mm and 165mm lenses:
https://www.pentaxuser.com/forum/topic/67ii-33582
I have so far only shot two films, they have not been processed yet. But I have gotten some experience with handling, weight, manual focus, mirror lock-up and other characteristics of the 67ii. I love the simplicity and robust functionality of the camera, and off course the viewfinder
I plan to upgrade my tripod in the future and also buy a medium format scanner. The Epson V700/750 seem to give good (enough) results with 120 film and larger formats, so I believe I in due time will get an Epson. Should I end up with images that are really good (one never knows:!, I can go to a photo lab and get them drum scanned.
I am very excited with how my first films will turn out!
Bjørn
B
https://www.pentaxuser.com/forum/topic/67ii-33582
I have so far only shot two films, they have not been processed yet. But I have gotten some experience with handling, weight, manual focus, mirror lock-up and other characteristics of the 67ii. I love the simplicity and robust functionality of the camera, and off course the viewfinder
johnha wrote:
If you like to take things slower, take your time and ask yourself 'Is pressing the shutter now really worth a pound?', your photography will become much more considered and careful.
This is the main reason for me to wanting to venture into analogue medium format territory. I have been wanting my attempts with photography to be of a more contemplative nature. My occupation is within music and pedagogy, so my everyday life is often at high speed. Photography is a recreational activity for me, so doing it at a slow pace is a major goal. You can probably achieve a similar calm pace with digital equipment, but with the 67ii and 120 film you have no choice, you must take things slower I could possibly start a more philosophical discussion about speed/tempo and levels of noise in Western society today, but I will leave that for now If you like to take things slower, take your time and ask yourself 'Is pressing the shutter now really worth a pound?', your photography will become much more considered and careful.
I plan to upgrade my tripod in the future and also buy a medium format scanner. The Epson V700/750 seem to give good (enough) results with 120 film and larger formats, so I believe I in due time will get an Epson. Should I end up with images that are really good (one never knows:!, I can go to a photo lab and get them drum scanned.
I am very excited with how my first films will turn out!
Bjørn
B
Comment by bjolester posted on 67II worth buying? at 09/03/2012 - 09:12
Thank you for sharing your experience Vaards!
So far I have purchased an old inexpensive Gitzo Rational 4 (3-way pan tilt head) from KEH.com. I have not received it yet, but I believe it is quite heavy and robust and will serve my Pentax 67 system well. I have read that it has a max load capacity of 12 kg. I am planning to test this head with my Manfrotto 055xprob, before I have saved enough funds for a new tripod, and then use it with a better tripod in the future.
I have read reviews about the Gitzo 5541LS, and that would be a perfect tripod for me except that it is far too expensive right now. I have not seen many of them second hand either, the people who buy them seem to keep on to them.
I have also been looking at the Gitzo G1500, which could possibly be within my economic range in the near future. The aluminum G1500 is obviously a heavier tripod to carry around (4.4kg) than a carbon tripod, but it seems robust and has a max load capacity of 20kg. Currently I have a three prime lens combination for my 67ii: 45mm + 105mm + 165mm, but with the G1500 I need not buy a new tripod if I were to invest in some 67 tele lenses in the future.
For now I have loaded the 67ii with 400ASA film and shoot hand held My first films will be processed next week, so it will soon be apparent how successful this has been
But already I can say that the 67ii is really a wonderful camera to use, I am "all smiles" when I walk around with it!
Bjørn
So far I have purchased an old inexpensive Gitzo Rational 4 (3-way pan tilt head) from KEH.com. I have not received it yet, but I believe it is quite heavy and robust and will serve my Pentax 67 system well. I have read that it has a max load capacity of 12 kg. I am planning to test this head with my Manfrotto 055xprob, before I have saved enough funds for a new tripod, and then use it with a better tripod in the future.
I have read reviews about the Gitzo 5541LS, and that would be a perfect tripod for me except that it is far too expensive right now. I have not seen many of them second hand either, the people who buy them seem to keep on to them.
I have also been looking at the Gitzo G1500, which could possibly be within my economic range in the near future. The aluminum G1500 is obviously a heavier tripod to carry around (4.4kg) than a carbon tripod, but it seems robust and has a max load capacity of 20kg. Currently I have a three prime lens combination for my 67ii: 45mm + 105mm + 165mm, but with the G1500 I need not buy a new tripod if I were to invest in some 67 tele lenses in the future.
For now I have loaded the 67ii with 400ASA film and shoot hand held My first films will be processed next week, so it will soon be apparent how successful this has been
But already I can say that the 67ii is really a wonderful camera to use, I am "all smiles" when I walk around with it!
Bjørn
Comment by bjolester posted on Pentax 67 II tripod at 03/03/2012 - 15:51
George Lazarette wrote:
Enjoy yourself. I love those wooden handles. You know you're in analogue territory when the kit is made of wood.
G
Thank you! Yes, the wooden handle really gives the 67 character.Enjoy yourself. I love those wooden handles. You know you're in analogue territory when the kit is made of wood.
G
Gwyn wrote:
Looks good Bjørn. An added challenge for the perfect Northern Lights photo .
Have fun with it.
I hope you have ordered up some Lights for me next week (or the one after will do too). .
Today I learned how to insert film into the 67, I guess I need to work with the camera for quite some time before I attempt the Northern Lights. But hopefully in the future...Looks good Bjørn. An added challenge for the perfect Northern Lights photo .
Have fun with it.
I hope you have ordered up some Lights for me next week (or the one after will do too). .
I wish you the best of luck with the weather for your trip to Norway, and hope that you have a great time
Bjørn
womble wrote:
If you are using the 67II on a tripod always lock the mirror up. It makes quite a difference...
K.
Thank you Kris, I will keep that in mind!If you are using the 67II on a tripod always lock the mirror up. It makes quite a difference...
K.
Bjørn
Comment by bjolester posted on Pentax 67 II tripod at 15/02/2012 - 17:11
My question above was perhaps poorly formulated, but you have given me the answer I was looking for.
So far my search has only been on the net, I have not yet had the time to visit any camera shops. The Gitzo G1500 is the most interesting tripod I have found so far, and I also like the Manfrotto 405 head (I prefer 3-way heads). A tripod like the G1500 will, like you also point out, last a lifetime. It makes sense to aim for this quality level. I need to start saving for a proper tripod for my 67II
Bjørn
So far my search has only been on the net, I have not yet had the time to visit any camera shops. The Gitzo G1500 is the most interesting tripod I have found so far, and I also like the Manfrotto 405 head (I prefer 3-way heads). A tripod like the G1500 will, like you also point out, last a lifetime. It makes sense to aim for this quality level. I need to start saving for a proper tripod for my 67II
Bjørn
Comment by bjolester posted on Pentax 67 II tripod at 15/02/2012 - 15:43
If one does not mind the weight issue, how would the Manfrotto Triaut M058B function as an outdoor tripod? I see that it is placed in the "studio" category on the Manfrotto webpage linked above.
Maybe a 2 kilometer trek with the 67II and the M058 could possibly be the perfect work-out
Bjørn
Maybe a 2 kilometer trek with the 67II and the M058 could possibly be the perfect work-out
Bjørn
Comment by bjolester posted on Pentax 67 II tripod at 14/02/2012 - 18:47
The 67 has the metering in the prism head, so when you lock up the mirror light can no longer reach the meter cells. Locking up the mirror whilst hand holding seems a very difficult way of using the camera though. Why not just use it as intended and go from there?
Mirror Up is intended for when the camera is firmly fixed on a tripod.
I am a novice with using the 67ii, so the problem is that I do not really know how to "use it as intended" - yet
But I am a fast learner - MLU only with a firmly fixed tripod