All Forum Comments
Comment by Argee posted on OK - so what / who is a Pro ? at 17/12/2009 - 17:42
wow Ray that some hard comments you have their.
But I've not getting into an argument with you over it.
Why
Because
One I haven't got the time (two busy getting ready for my next shoot
Two Got to go to the bank and deposit fee's from the last shoot.
end of story
and I wouldn't do studio shoots if i didn't enjoy it, nothing can beat the feeling when you see a clients face when you've capture a moment, a feeling, emotion (that's what I love and shoot for)
not Cynical sad people that need labels on everything.
RG
Comment by Argee posted on OK - so what / who is a Pro ? at 17/12/2009 - 17:10
I class my self as a semi-pro because I earn money from my shoot and images but don't need to pay the rent ect I do it because I love it
"Professional" means - to me at least - "following an occupation as a means of livelihood or for gain." Your definition is that if you make money from it, you're a professional (*see post) so that if you make some but not all of your money from it, then you're semi-pro. That's exactly what misleads prospective clients and that is - at best - UNprofessional and - at worst - fraudulent.
Since I've been a member here I've seen a couple of classic examples of people who:
1) buy a decent camera and
2) whang up a website and advertise themselves
- all the while asking all sorts of basic questions on here that simply prove their lack of knowledge and experience. They benefit from the generousity of the membership here in answering those questions, then might also pay to join an on-line "association" - membership of which, they think, will add to their credibility. Of course, their poor clients don't get to see the total lack of professionalism this attitude reveals.
*The very act of advertising - by whatever method - for paid work, implies professional aptitude, yet I've seen so-called "pros" and "semi-pros" who have no qualifications or genuine commissions to prove either experience or competence. I'd want proof of both.
The fact that some don't "need to pay the rent" and "do it because they love it" also probably means that:
:arrow:They have no actual professional experience or qualifications of competence, however gained (Uni or apprenticeship).
:arrow:They don't carry public or professional liability insurance in the event of injury, loss or damage, equipment failure, litigation, etc.
:arrow:They think that just low-priced work, on recommendation, for example, indemnifies you if anything goes pear-shaped - "Well, I don't make a living from it, so I'm not really responsible."
If I had an important commission for a photographer, guess who I'd ask (not that I have any strong feelings, either way :roll?
Ray
Comment by Argee posted on OK - so what / who is a Pro ? at 17/12/2009 - 12:58
I own Photoshop creative suite 3 master collection ...
Ray
Ray
Comment by Argee posted on how do I protect my self at 04/12/2009 - 17:12
I own Photoshop creative suite 3 master collection ...
Ray
Comment by Argee posted on how do I protect my self at 02/12/2009 - 19:28
Jeez, sorry Bob, I thought that was yours. From memory (admittedly pretty rubbish these days) the little girl in it looked like your daughter It was a BW photo which was taken that looked like someone's POV if they were peeking around the door.
Ray
Comment by Argee posted on My latest bash at portraits at 18/11/2009 - 11:18
Ray
Comment by Argee posted on Silkypix wont open RAW file at 17/11/2009 - 16:57
CRB check accounts for nothing if you haven't been caught.
The endeavour must be to get the balance right, but the example in the link seems un-necessarily draconian to me.
Ray
Comment by Argee posted on So are you allowed to photograph your kids through the fence? at 29/10/2009 - 12:38
Ray
Comment by Argee posted on How About A windows 7 thread! at 27/10/2009 - 12:38
My old but reliable Epson Perfection 1200 wouldn't work with it, but that's not a big deal and I was aware of that beforehand as I used the Windows 7 upgrade checking utility before ordering. I've now got a new scanner (Epson Perfection V500 Photo) so it's time to start converting the 35mm negatives.
Ray
Comment by Argee posted on How About A windows 7 thread! at 27/10/2009 - 09:49


Settle down please - quoting someone and saying "what utter nonsense" isn't excatly general or well reasoned, is it?