They bought 2 Canons but the first one didn't survive the trip underwater

Hi Sue,
Haddon Hall is quite a long swim for me but in musea here it's so far as I know mostly not a problem (monopod) so was more intented as a tip for next time.

Looks like a lovely place btw, I do intend to visit England sometime soon since I haven't been there for some years now so it will be on my list of interest.

ps. you had quite a lovely weather their when taking the shot.

I also have no doubt about Judith's intentions so we should appreciate such photos and not put them down, if the intention is right and the photo isn't suggestive then their should be a problem. Yes there is a fine line to be walked like you said. Where does the art end so to say but that's personal question. I only find it sad that the finger gets pointed in the wrong direction most of the time by people who don't look further, such in Betsy Schneider case.

ps. I've looked for some rules to see how the forum thinks about it, luckly I couldn't find something so they think we're decent enough.

Very wise words but do we have to fear for those who do child nudes openly or those who tries to hide it?
You see what the problem becomes if it gets taboo, the ones that did it in hiding keep on going with their porn while the ones making art are the ones suffering.
People are digging their own grave now.

That's great, Pentax should try to exploit that for marketing there weather-sealing

Pentax also went into space btw, not many cameras can say that

What about monopods, they are most of the times more agreeable with that.

I've that also sometimes with the AF switch and once or twice with the AF metering modes.

Interesting read and I'll read the rest of it in a moment.

I know what you mean Don but with this subject it's quite hard to come up for yourself if you disagree.
If you agree that such photos shouldn't be displayed it's simple, the word pedophily is close at hand to push any one that isn't sure to the agree side.
It's simple the fear that drives people, they want to protect their childern. The only question is what are they protecting them from?
Then also comes the question at how much the childern know what they are doing and if they want to do it, this the most important one in my eyes.

Baby photos are surely no problem but then there comes an age when it becomes questionable, around 5 or 6 year I would say. Not that it's wrong... it's just that when they're adults and you asked him "do you think it was alright that nude photos of when you was a child were displayed?". He needs to answer that with a yes or elses something is wrong in my eyes.

For those when handel child nude photography in a good and caring manor I don't think it's wrong. That art from Betsy Schneider was taken fromthe walls is ridiculous in my eyes. I believe she knew full well what she was doing and didn't want to harm her child in anyway, such thoughts weren't even behind it. But those who look at it and think about pedophily are the ones that are wrong, they're the ones that don't understand it.

*sighs* I hope my rant is readable for everyone

Edit: sorry that I went of topic Judith, I hope you don't mind... Maybe we should make a topic out of it in another place on the forum if we gonna talk more about.

Oh no Judith that isn't it, the photos give of a feel that you're close to them, that they are important in your life.
They also give of a warmth that feels really good but seems not attent for us... do you get what I mean?

I'm very sorry of the lack of colour but he doesn't have camouflage for nothing right

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