The menu structure seem to work more efficient and also does the direct FN buttons so more controls are more directly at hand. There are some usefull shooting modes added. Live-view seems to work better and should be more usefull on tripod work. These are all little things and I'm sure there would be more little things that might end up making the camera more efficient/streamed lined to use.

Just asked which one they find better to handel the K10D or the K20D, it's the little things that makes life better.

Don't forget that the American prices are without tax

There is also on tryout day the 24th of May in RPQ in Kaatsheuvel. It's a preprodutcion model though but Kaatsheuvel isn't to far from my place so I might take the trip and see what's like.

If I go are there any things you want to know?
I will take my camera with me and try to make some shots with the K-7 and would post them here... if I go of course

George besides the obvious numbers I think it's a more mature K20D, most of his faults have been taking out and the camera seems more streamed lined to use and I think that's a major plus point over the K20D. Not that the K20D is bad, It's been said that the controls are better off the K20D over the K10D and I really like the controls of the K10D, so better over better seems a perfect upgrade from me.

The price is the deal braker for the K-7 at the moment it doesn't offer to much over the K20D to upgrade but I had the same feeling with the K10D to upgrade to a K20D but still most if not all users found it a great improvement. I've the K10D and it certainly looks like a better whole package then the K20D so lets wait what the price will be, since it isn't to differend from the K20D I don't think/hope it will be outrageous.

Okay do that Amin, it's always interesting to see what you come up with

I've a portait course tonight with a model so, if I'm happy with some or wont to learn I will post them.

okay good luck with you TC, I've a 2x TC and that one works fine with the 100mm.

btw I said reversing but I meant stacking, so reverse mounting your lens on top of the macro lens. The reverse lens acts like an high quality close-up filter so it's a budget solution.
But I believe that your TC will do the job or was you planning for something extreme?

Amin, if I understand it correctly you want to use a close up filter on your macro lens so that you would get a even more close up photos right?

You could use your Pentax 1.7 tc, it would increase your macro from 1:1 to 1:1.7
You can also reverese mount your 50mm lens, they have both a 49mm filter thread I believe, you will get 1:2 then and if you also use your TC that would be 1:3.4
If you want to go further buy a M 28mm on ebay, they are quite cheap. You will get 1:3.6 reversed on the 100mm and with TC that would be 1:6, I believe that would be enough 6 times magnification or not?

Or a second hand macro lens.
The M 100 f/4 Macro looks pretty good, never used one though.
With macro you don't use autofocus and most of the time your camera is in manual mode so a manual lens wouldn't be a great downgrade compared to the autofocus lenses.

btw what kind of macro do you want to do? bugs, flowers, objects, etc. it's easier to advice you then because for bugs you don't want to come to close so some option Peter said aren't the best for that.

Also a tele converter increase your macro capabilities to an extend and with most lenses that's also enough.

Some experience marksman had some great tips

Keep your elbow close to your body, spread your legs a bit so that you stand stable, controll your breathing and press the shutter release softly.
Oh and shooting in bursts also helps, with the first shot you try to compesate with you pushing the release button so you've some movement there but if you hold the button then your second photo would be without that movement.

Also if you can try to find support, the shoulder of your better half always works well

Why not just wait for an hour????