What clown's put them up Pentax need to get them taken down ASAP.

The "see-through" looks horrible and is leaning over... enough to put anybody off

The 2nd shot is of a viewfinder ruined by using a camera that looks to have Vaseline on the lens.

The next main shots of the camera have the viewfinder clipped onto it?
I thought the idea was to sell a small camera that you didn't have to
clip a non-colour matching viewfinder to.
I think the viewfinder costs extra anyway.
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Same with Virgin. If it hasn't been changed it will be on the router.

I didn't pay much attention to the centre of frame shots, I was only really illustrating the edge performance, which was the same on both sides of the frame so no de-centering problem. They are the actual true centres of each frame, but I should have aligned them better. I've also noticed that the Kit Lens shot has some slight camera shake in it.

There's a lot of extra Blue in the Chinon shot. The camera
was set to Daylight.

The Pentax_A 28mm f/2.8 wasn't much better than the Chinon.

The Sigma II 28mm f/2.8 was poor.

I'll have to dig out my Kiron 28-105mm and see how that compares

My idea of a futile discussion is going into the Bugatti Veyron Forum and asking
how I repair a leak in the bottom hose of my radiator

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Sounds a good idea

Looking back at the names of couples at old weddings I've done
I notice one groom was called Albert Priestly......???? must
dig out the negs :

Hi Andrew, they look OK, but without comparing two shots of the same thing it's a bit difficult to judge. Possibly the Chinon is better close up than at a distance. Grass is also not that good to judge IQ by. There could be different models but most budget lenses tend to be the same design with possibly an external re-vamp. Below are some test shots that I did. I'm keeping the lens for close up work.

This is the Pentax 18-55mm Mk2 Kit Lens (LHS) -v- Chinon 28mm f/2.8 (RHS)

Both at f/8 at 1/200th sec.
Pentax K-5 200ISO
No PP straight from camera JPG's
Camera on tripod Square to bridge.

1:1 (100%) Centre of frame Compare captured by a screen grab at 800 wide.




1:1 (100%) RHS of frame Compare captured by a screen grab at 800 wide.




The Chinon is quite nice close up for things like flowers and has
a pleasant bokeh and 3D look.




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It might not be that bad for 18mm, there's a hell of a lot more detail in the frame with a wide angle and pixel peeping doesn't really work. You get the opposite with a telephoto, because you can see eyelashes etc. you think this is a sharp lens.

I bought a Sigma 10-20mm and wasn't too happy with it so I got the Samsung 12-24mm and the two were almost identical, so I decided to keep the Sigma (2mm wider) and sell the Samsung. Printed A4's look really sharp with loads of detail.

It's also important to focus properly with a wide angle. Mattmatic posted a link recently to the Phase One site showing how to set the lens up.

They don't look too good and it's the 1st time I've seen PF with the kit lens........ what focal length is it at?

Could be Andrew, but all my 28mm are soft at the edge apart from the Ensinor which cost a small fortune ..... £5 Mint in box