elvis presley

jeff0000
Posted 15/07/2011 - 13:41 Link
just was thinking who would hold the right to elvis presley wedding photos the photographer or them ??
playing firm but fair all the way
Gwyn
Posted 15/07/2011 - 15:14 Link
That would depend on the contract they signed I imagine.

Usually the photographer retains the rights to (wedding) photos.
jeff0000
Posted 15/07/2011 - 15:51 Link
Gwyn wrote:
That would depend on the contract they signed I imagine.

Usually the photographer retains the rights to (wedding) photos.
yes u colud be right
playing firm but fair all the way
lemmy
Posted 17/07/2011 - 11:17 Link
I used to do a lot fo work for Paul McCartney in the 'Wings' days and signed a contract agreeing that copyright belonged to MPL (His business holdings company). It also stated that any unauthorised use of he images would be the responsibility of the photographer.

This is a pretty standard contract for high level entertainment people.

The work flow was that after shooting the pix, I would messenger the film to a trusted lab and when ready have them messengered to wherever Paul and Linda were. We would then arrange a time and place and go through the stuff together.

After selection, the material would go to Gene Nocon's place in Coventry Garden for printing, duping etc before being shipped over to Tony Brainsby's office in Chelsea for Tony to distribute as necessary. Thus, there was not much scope for misuse on my part. In practise, the deal I had with the McCartneys over payment would make you a fool to abuse it, even apart from moral considerations.

It is most unlikely that any photographer would be allowed copyright over something like the Presley wedding. The value is not in the pictures but the image of the artist. Presley's management would have been idiots not to have capitalised on the commercial value of these pictures and whatever you might think of Col Tom Parker, an idiot he was not.
Anvh
Posted 17/07/2011 - 11:31 Link
With wedding photography the photographer gets hired, doesn't that almost automatically mean that the photos belong to the one hiring the photographer?
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Gwyn
Posted 17/07/2011 - 11:51 Link
Anvh wrote:
With wedding photography the photographer gets hired, doesn't that almost automatically mean that the photos belong to the one hiring the photographer?
No. The wedding photographer often makes his (or her) money from the prints/albums they sell. If the person hiring them owned the copyright then they would have to hand over all the photos taken that day, including all the duff ones, and would be paid purely for the day. They would also not be able to have samples to show other potential clients.
Some contracts do hand over copyright, but then you pay a lot more for the photographer.

Lemmy - that is why I said it depends on the contract that was signed. I can't imagine any star not having copyright of their wedding photos, or any other photos they commission.
Edited by Gwyn: 17/07/2011 - 11:52
Anvh
Posted 17/07/2011 - 11:53 Link
Haven't thought about it in such way Gwyn, thanks.
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lemmy
Posted 17/07/2011 - 14:19 Link
Gwyn wrote:
Lemmy - that is why I said it depends on the contract that was signed. I can't imagine any star not having copyright of their wedding photos, or any other photos they commission.
Yes, I knew that was what you meant and was backing up your comment with personal experience.
Smeggypants
Posted 17/07/2011 - 21:32 Link
***Goes digs out snaps of Elvis seen queuing up in our local chip shop***
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Gwyn
Posted 17/07/2011 - 21:58 Link
Smeggypants wrote:
***Goes digs out snaps of Elvis seen queuing up in our local chip shop***
I thought he worked there???
RioRico
Posted 17/07/2011 - 22:36 Link
Wedding shots of Pelvis Greasley?!?!?
Oh, hold me back...
:
: Too many film & digital cameras & lenses, oh my!
:
Smeggypants
Posted 18/07/2011 - 01:13 Link
RioRico wrote:
Wedding shots of Pelvis Greasley?!?!?
Oh, hold me back...
Perhaps he was talking about welding shots of Elvis. As he ordered his Battered sausage and curry sauce he did mention he now worked in the local Autobody shop.
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Gwyn
Posted 18/07/2011 - 09:43 Link
So the guy who works down the chip shop who swears he's Elvis is a liar?
Algernon
Posted 18/07/2011 - 10:14 Link
Looking back at the names of couples at old weddings I've done
I notice one groom was called Albert Priestly......???? must
dig out the negs :
Half Man... Half Pentax ... Half Cucumber

Pentax K-1 + K-5 and some other stuff

Algi
johnriley
Posted 18/07/2011 - 13:41 Link
I have to admit when I read the OP I was picturing one of these Nevada weddings with Elvis lookalikes. The question might have been if we get married in such a chapel who owns the rights to the photos taken.

As for Elvis, I saw him a couple of years ago in the town square in Ormskirk, judging some sort of competition of Elvis lookalikes. Bizarre.
Best regards, John

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