hi for those who might be interested there is what appears to be a estate sale on ebay uk for what I think are all manual lenses but might be worth a look .
this is not my auction I just though I would pass it on.
There are a couple there I would love but can't afford to buy any thing at the moment.
Alistair
auction 180456057433

Has any one used the Pentax AF 360 flash with an M series manual lens? If so how effective is the Auto function on the 360 as opposed to using the full manual setting?
I am torn between the Metz 48 and the 360 and I am aware the Metz has a higher GN and a tilt / swivel head and the battery door on the 360 is flimsy but the Auto function in the 360 menu seems to be handy for a user of manual lenses like me and not available on the Metz
any comments any one?
Alistair

Stefan,
thanks now I understand what I should have bought.
It seems like the choice is pentax 360 or metz 48 or if I want metz with auto then it's the metz 58.
price wise 360 = £176 metz 48 =£149 metz 58= £250.
that looks like given the auto in the 360 it wins.
promaster don't seem to available here in England

Any other makes to suggest any one?

Alistair

Perhaps I should ask the question
which flash can you buy that will work with a K10d using "M" lenses that will also work with P-TTL?
Alistair

Stefan as I said in the "A" position the flash works 100% ok but how do you get it to work in manual selection? or will it not? in which case I have wasted my money as my little Af 160 will do that.
Alistair

I understand the flash cannot do TTL on a digital due to the design difference between film and digital bodies, and cannot do P-TTL on a manual set aperture lens.
But the Metz will not even trigger if the aperture is set to manual on a "A series" lens or is a pure manual lens.There is no "A" setting or any setting on the Metz 36.
however my cheap little AF 160 does as you suggest as it has a M switch and you can alter the output via a switch, the Metz has nothing at all in the way of switches hence the question have I bought a lemon?
Alistair

I expect this is blindingly obvious to every one but me but with a Metz 36 flash which has no settings at all how do you use it with M series lens on K10D
The flash works 100% ok with any full auto focus lens and with my "A" type lens but if you change the aperture to manual the flash does not go off.
I have a old AF160 which works on the manual settings and on the whole the table info on the back is usable and produces usable images but there obvious drawbacks to this flash, so I thought a cheap metz would do and allow for bounce and be a bit more powerfully.
have I bought the wrong flash for manual lenses?
Alistair

Thank you every one for the information, It would appear tht I will have to learn to step out of the box and try to be a bit creative to use this fature.
I must say that there is no use otherwise than art or creativity for this action surprises me or rather it surprises me that Pentax put it there.
I had though that it would stack and thereore could have been used to extend DOF in macro by ajusting the focus point in each shot but that does not work either.
Alistair

its never been an issue but I have noticed that the settings displayed on the top lcd k10d [static scene, on a tripod,] after a green button push, is never quite the same as the exif data on the image? speed difference not the aperture
Don't know why?
Alistair

I used Duracell 1700mha rechargeable Nimh with my k100d before I sold it.
battery life / pictures ere not always consistent but I had 3 sets and never ran out. keep the spares warm in a pocket as previously advised.
buy a couple of CRV3 for emergency backup.
Alistair