What size for raw please?
Posted 10/03/2014 - 10:25
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Posted 10/03/2014 - 10:30
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RAW isn't an image, it's the 'raw' data that the camera records and usually converts into a jpg for you. There are many programs that can do the conversion for you so don't worry about that.
As for card size it depends what you normally do, if you shoot loads and loads of images at a time than a bigger card like 16gb will be good but even 8gb will do well if you're going to download your stuff often. Speed is more important with RAW as the files are bigger it takes longer for the camera to save them. Class 10 is currently the fastest but there are different speeds even in the class 10 range. If you stick with a good name (Sandisk for example) you can make sure you get one that's good quality and fast.
As for card size it depends what you normally do, if you shoot loads and loads of images at a time than a bigger card like 16gb will be good but even 8gb will do well if you're going to download your stuff often. Speed is more important with RAW as the files are bigger it takes longer for the camera to save them. Class 10 is currently the fastest but there are different speeds even in the class 10 range. If you stick with a good name (Sandisk for example) you can make sure you get one that's good quality and fast.
Posted 10/03/2014 - 10:44
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Actually re size you can check for yourself. Put an empty card in the camera, choose RAW only and have a look to see how many shots the camera says you can take before the card is full. My K3 will fit almost 600 on a 32gb card. A K30 has smaller files so would fit more.
Posted 10/03/2014 - 10:54
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I use a 16GB card to shoot Raw with a K5 which is similar to your K30 in terms of the file size it generates for an image. The 16GB card can store around 1700 jpeg files or 460 raw files or 360 raw+jpeg files. It's very rare I run out of space on the card. It really down to how many pictures you think your going to take in one go
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Posted 10/03/2014 - 10:56 - Helpful Comment
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It's also in the instruction manual.
The first question I would ask though is why have you decided to shoot RAW? It will create a new set of problems for you, so I think the test would be to ask would it improve your photography in some way?
If so, go for it, if not then think carefully why you're doing it.
The first question I would ask though is why have you decided to shoot RAW? It will create a new set of problems for you, so I think the test would be to ask would it improve your photography in some way?
If so, go for it, if not then think carefully why you're doing it.
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Posted 10/03/2014 - 10:57 - Helpful Comment
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I wouldn't bother with anything less than 32gb as prices are very low at present. I just got a MyMemory own brand Class 10, 32gb SDHC for £13.97 inc del. If you want a genuine SanDisk 32gb Class 10 its only £16.97.
I've used their own make cards for many years and never had a problem. Service is quick and prices are keen on all makes and there customer service is very good. Link http://www.mymemory.co.uk/SDHC
Regarding shooting in RAW its well worth it if your prepared to spend a little longer than normal in editing, the benefits are the ability to improve a slightly less than perfect shot and make it outstanding and make a good shot brilliant. In camera JPEGs may throw away important info which a good RAW editor can make use of. Detail and colour may be lost forever as the camera discards information as it produces a JPEG.
However initially be prepared to spend a lot of time using and learning how your RAW editor works with your cameras photos. I would invest in Photoshop Elements as its easy once you get a routine going plus you always have the original RAW safe.
If in doubt when you start using RAW set the camera to take both RAW and JPEG that way you always have the JPEG to fall back on.
Regards David
I've used their own make cards for many years and never had a problem. Service is quick and prices are keen on all makes and there customer service is very good. Link http://www.mymemory.co.uk/SDHC
Regarding shooting in RAW its well worth it if your prepared to spend a little longer than normal in editing, the benefits are the ability to improve a slightly less than perfect shot and make it outstanding and make a good shot brilliant. In camera JPEGs may throw away important info which a good RAW editor can make use of. Detail and colour may be lost forever as the camera discards information as it produces a JPEG.
However initially be prepared to spend a lot of time using and learning how your RAW editor works with your cameras photos. I would invest in Photoshop Elements as its easy once you get a routine going plus you always have the original RAW safe.
If in doubt when you start using RAW set the camera to take both RAW and JPEG that way you always have the JPEG to fall back on.
Regards David
Posted 10/03/2014 - 11:27
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I recently ordered 2 x 32Gb SDHC cards from Amazon.es, 2 x 32Gb SDXC cards arrived and both were either faulty or fake and would record only 3.6Gb no matter how they were formatted.
If ordering from Amazon, make sure Amazon is the seller, not just fulfilled by Amazon.
If ordering from Amazon, make sure Amazon is the seller, not just fulfilled by Amazon.
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Posted 10/03/2014 - 11:35
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Using RAW benefits are;
Very poor original RAW photo converted into a JPEG but un-edited
https://www.pentaxuser.com/photo/user-12009/tree-creeper-73482
Edited version
https://www.pentaxuser.com/photo/user-12009/tree-creeper-73483
I know the final version is not a master piece but it is now worth looking at and keeping.
Regards David
Very poor original RAW photo converted into a JPEG but un-edited
https://www.pentaxuser.com/photo/user-12009/tree-creeper-73482
Edited version
https://www.pentaxuser.com/photo/user-12009/tree-creeper-73483
I know the final version is not a master piece but it is now worth looking at and keeping.
Regards David
Posted 10/03/2014 - 11:45
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Davids' post brings something else to mind, RAW files will look flat and lifeless compared to a jpg from the camera, don't be put off as it's for you to put the spark into them. For me that's the whole point of it, I decide what the finished image looks like, not the camera.
Posted 10/03/2014 - 15:04 - Helpful Comment
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Having looked at the images you post I can see no reason at all to shoot in RAW. As a professional of some almost 40 years standing, I don't. Don't complicate your life for no reason at all.
At the end of the day it's going to end up as a jpeg
At the end of the day it's going to end up as a jpeg
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Posted 10/03/2014 - 15:18
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Pentax Camera JPEGs are very good too - what about using the camera Custom Settings to make small adjustments just before you shoot - the main ones to look at would be White Balance, Saturation, Contrast (Hi & Low tone) and Sharpness. If you can get these very good on the shoot you should get great JPEGs out of the camera.
Also use the INFO screen to make sure you're shooting the best JPEGs quality-wise - set the maximum 'size' (like 14MP) and the highest 'quality' (like 'Premium').
Also use the INFO screen to make sure you're shooting the best JPEGs quality-wise - set the maximum 'size' (like 14MP) and the highest 'quality' (like 'Premium').
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Posted 10/03/2014 - 16:37
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I have made a post on the 'General Digital Photography' section about my 'Foray' into 'RAW' -- I did a 2nd Birthday Party on my 2 GB Jessops SD card in my 2007 K10D and took 26 shots -- well, I couldn't see any DIFFERENCE from JPegs really -- I have my K10D set to 'Best Quality' JPeg, usually only 6 mp but this time I had it on the 10.2 MP maximum, ISO 400, manual exposure 1/125 th second for flash and f5.6 for bounce flash. In the 'Menu' I have my K10D set to +1 notch saturation, +1 notch sharpness, contrast in the middle and JPegs come out very good colour -- oh yes - I did a 'Preview' on the flash WB and it was a bit yellow/green so I dialed in + blue + magenta and the colours came out well -- I used my FastStone Image Viewer to deal with DNG 'RAW' and converted to JPegs and have sent some to Snapfish for printing.
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Posted 10/03/2014 - 19:48
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Thanks for your replies. Someone told me that I should be shooting in raw.
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Set the camera to take both RAW and JPEG
How do you do that on a K30?Set the camera to take both RAW and JPEG
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RAW files will look flat and lifeless compared to a jpg from the camera
Why is that? i thought they held more detail? :
RAW files will look flat and lifeless compared to a jpg from the camera
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Posted 10/03/2014 - 20:01
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johnriley wrote:
It's also in the instruction manual.
The first question I would ask though is why have you decided to shoot RAW? It will create a new set of problems for you, so I think the test would be to ask would it improve your photography in some way?
If so, go for it, if not then think carefully why you're doing it.
It's funny how we think of these things isn't it. I always consider that shooting jpeg gives me complications I just don't have in RAW but each to their own.It's also in the instruction manual.
The first question I would ask though is why have you decided to shoot RAW? It will create a new set of problems for you, so I think the test would be to ask would it improve your photography in some way?
If so, go for it, if not then think carefully why you're doing it.
I will agree there a steepish learning curve when you start with RAW, particularly if you don't come from a computer background and haven't read up on digital processing in advance.
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