What microphone for video?

pezking
Posted 08/06/2011 - 21:56 Link
rparmar wrote:
pezking wrote:
I've recorded acoustic guitar, electric guitar and singing with them and it sounds great.
Any recorder will sound great for that application, since noise will be masked by the relatively high input signal level, as you should well know from being an audio engineer. However the application under discussion is not recording your favourite band or practice session, for which you may as well use a cassette recorder.
Not any recorder will sound good for this application. I've used other recorders which haven't faired so well. Many can't cope with the SPL and others have a much higher noise floor. Some have weird frequency responses and so colour the sound in an odd way.

Come on a cassette recorder? Now you're just being silly...

rparmar wrote:
The application here is video, which I assume means capturing both dialogue and ambiance in the field. Recorders with high noise floor cannot be recommended for this application.
You're right, I should have provided some more relevant experience with the recorder. I recorded ambience outside in the garden. Distant traffic, birds, kids playing in the next garden - you know the stuff. The noise floor was not an issue here, and I was still able to achieve a high signal to noise ratio.

pezking wrote:
If I had to critique two points they would be that it doesn't feel strongly built (so don't treat it roughly... why would you anyway?)
rparmar wrote:
That's an odd statement. In field use one doesn't have the choice of babying equipment. I cannot tell from the lack of context, but if you are referring to my comments on build quality, they were made regarding the H2, not the H1, which I have never used.
You're reading too much into it... It was a statement made based on my opinion - not in response to any comments made by you. My point was - so what it's delicate? Just treat it with respect! I have so many microphones and pieces of equipment which need to be handled carefully but that doesn't make them bad products.

pezking wrote:
As for some of the opinions listed here: I can't believe that you're comparing a cheap personal recorder to field recorders costing many many times the price... Compare apples with apples eh?!
rparmar wrote:
I think perspective is a good thing. If a distinctly better recorder can be had an extra 50 or 100 monetary units then anyone serious about their task should pony up. Having knowledge of what different price points buys you can only be a good thing.

For what it's worth, I have been recommending inexpensive gear with a distinctly better ability to get the job done than gear the same price or slightly less. The fact that Zoom recorders are often recommended in certain circles only points to a lack of knowledge about alternatives. That's all well and good but aren't we on a Pentax forum? Look to other options.
You're right perspective is a great thing - and I removed the comment you quoted very shortly after writing it. You happened to catch it pretty damn quickly!

The point of my post was purely that a) Thomann are a very good reseller and b) At £100 the Zoom H1 is unbeatable and more than up to the task of recording dialogue and ambience for video. It will not only cope with the more quiet situations (it has plenty sensitive microphones), but will also handle high SPL situations like in front of a live gig.

It is my opinion that this recorder would out perform a microphone attached to the mic input of a DSLR.

Sorry if my post rubbed you up the wrong way! Just trying to share my experience with the type of products being discussed.
rparmar
Posted 08/06/2011 - 22:28 Link
Fair enough -- sorry for any ill will.

It is in fact very hard to tell what is a "good enough" product, since people are generally very unsure of the standards they require. Microphones are far more important than the recorder in any case.

As for cassette... I used them all the time with no problem. Sony Pro Walkman FTW!
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Anvh
Posted 08/06/2011 - 22:38 Link
pezking wrote:
It is my opinion that this recorder would out perform a microphone attached to the mic input of a DSLR.
You make it sound like that is a major archivement with the K5... i wish that was true.
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Anvh
Posted 10/06/2011 - 19:40 Link
Got the build quality is surely good, it does not feel like a K10D though but more like a K-x
The device is indeed thin and quite long but because it's thin it fits easily in your pockets so big plus point for that.
The device is very simple to operate, even a complete audio noob like me has figured it out in less then 10 mintues.

Not much more to say.
No going to try it out some more
Stefan
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