What is Aperture

Phat
Posted 11/10/2004 - 09:33 Link
i have a p30 with a HYCHL SICOR MC lense or something 35 - 75mm F3.5 -4.8 No.K8801839, with a Achiever 300dx flash (it says for pentax on the back) . I am only thirteen so i dont know anything about camera's and i was just wondering what aperture is and how to use it? for the moment i just use Programed AE mode because i dont know how to use metered mode because the users manual is complicated. i dont get what the 22 16 11 8 5.6 3.5 means? on the aperture ring or something!

PLEASE HELP!

Phat

oh also could i use KODAK ELITE chrome extra colour on this camer ( its for bright sunny days so even if its non DX film itwould matter would it because 100 ISO is a good speed for sunny days right?)
Anonymous
Posted 11/10/2004 - 09:57 Link
hi phat.

Aperture refers to Depth of focus. There are many subjects on this topic if you just enter in aperture into google. Basically the smaller the number, the wider the aperture and the shallower depth of focus you will have. This is good for when you want an object in the foreground nice and crisp and the background blurred for example.
I don't have too much time to explain becasue you will need to learn about shutter speeds also because they both work in sync. Simply look for tutorials online but i would recommend you learn the basics before anything.

100iso is fine for a sunny day mate

Hope that helped
Phat
Posted 11/10/2004 - 10:36 Link
im still a bit confused but ill experiment. now when i put it in AE mode and when i press the shutter slightly P and say 125 light up hot come when its darker a lower number comes up if 1000 shutter speed is good for night time? im going tonight to get some shots of the City (PERTH - AUS) so ill just use AE with my flash.
Anonymous
Posted 11/10/2004 - 14:47 Link
If you can not understand the basics of SLR Camera you should not be trying to use one. Clearly you are not a professional photographer nor a hobbist photographer (such as myself) so you are obviously not requiring extremely high-quality snaps so I can not understand why you dont just use a basic Digital Point-n-Shoot etc... Which would probably suit you just fine. Of someone of your age, who probably has not had much photographic experience at all! So it seems to me that you are grasping a bit high to begin with.
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Secondly, personally i would not rely on the Auto settings on the P30. Although they probably work most of the time, at times i wouldnt be happy. This unknown lens is most likely crap, and will also not produce high-quality results. It is also quite slow. Look out especially for a Pentax-SMC 50mm 1.7 or 1.4 to achieve excellent results. You may also consider a Pentax (or maybe Sigma) Zoom.

For someone just begining, not only do i think that an SLR is just a bit to high to reach right now. It is silly and unnessecary to use expensive film on this camera - normal 200/400 Kodak or Fuji performs more than adequately - and also ensures that the ISO Speed is correct (due to the DX on the P30)
Anonymous
Posted 11/10/2004 - 14:52 Link
Quote:
im still a bit confused but ill experiment. now when i put it in AE mode and when i press the shutter slightly P and say 125 light up hot come when its darker a lower number comes up if 1000 shutter speed is good for night time? im going tonight to get some shots of the City (PERTH - AUS) so ill just use AE with my flash
Ok,
Firstly 1000 will be shocking for night-time. You want a very slow Shutter-Speed at night. Secondly, if you intend to take photos of the city at night your Flash will be utterly useless unless your taking subjects withing a few meters away. Secondly, you CAN-NOT use your flash on AE Mode, it must be manual. ie. The Camera on the optimal 100Flash Setting and the Appeture shut-down - or as the the table on the flash gun dicates..
Anonymous
Posted 11/10/2004 - 15:51 Link
How come the flash works then and it has a Lightning bolt above the P. it says on the back 0.8 - 5m or 2.6 - 16ft
Anonymous
Posted 11/10/2004 - 15:57 Link
i thought you use flash at night? i didnt get time to take any tonight im going tommorow night, what settings should i use on my camera (eg aperture, shutter dial etc)???
Anonymous
Posted 11/10/2004 - 16:07 Link
howcome on the back of the fujifilm case it says 800ISO film is good for night time? isn't 800 the shutter speed?? im a little confused.
Phat
Posted 11/10/2004 - 16:11 Link
sorry ^ that was me i didnt click the automaticaly sign me in box - could someone answer all three questions - i hate not being able to edit ure posts when ure i guest.
Phat
Posted 11/10/2004 - 16:17 Link
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If you can not understand the basics of SLR Camera you should not be trying to use one. Clearly you are not a professional photographer nor a hobbist photographer (such as myself) so you are obviously not requiring extremely high-quality snaps so I can not understand why you dont just use a basic Digital Point-n-Shoot etc... Which would probably suit you just fine. Of someone of your age, who probably has not had much photographic experience at all! So it seems to me that you are grasping a bit high to begin with.
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Secondly, personally i would not rely on the Auto settings on the P30. Although they probably work most of the time, at times i wouldnt be happy. This unknown lens is most likely crap, and will also not produce high-quality results. It is also quite slow. Look out especially for a Pentax-SMC 50mm 1.7 or 1.4 to achieve excellent results. You may also consider a Pentax (or maybe Sigma) Zoom.

For someone just begining, not only do i think that an SLR is just a bit to high to reach right now. It is silly and unnessecary to use expensive film on this camera - normal 200/400 Kodak or Fuji performs more than adequately - and also ensures that the ISO Speed is correct (due to the DX on the P30)
I got a bit bored so i pulled out the camera - i didnt buy it, it was my grandmothers. i don't know what the 1.7 or 1.4 is ?

i was just asking for some help , you don't have to be such a rude <unt because im not a professional and i don't know all the shit that you do.
Anonymous
Posted 11/10/2004 - 17:59 Link
good lad!
Anonymous
Posted 11/10/2004 - 20:09 Link
unfortunately he's right phat. You clearly need to try and master shutter speed and aperture on your camera before you tackle tricky scenes such as night time. 1/1000 is going to look awful, and you'll most prob need a tripod cos you'll be working at minimum 1/30 sec. Flash won't make a difference unless you are doing portrits anyway.

I suggest you learn the basics, find out what works well for what condition and really get a good basis of manual slrs. There are loads of sites out there to help you achieve this. What make is your lens? Remember that its more to do with the lens than the camera when it comes to quality.

Hope this helps
johnriley
Posted 11/10/2004 - 20:57 Link
Can I just define a couple of things - don't want to lecture at anyone! - but there is a big difference between DEPTH OF FIELD and DEPTH OF FOCUS.

DEPTH OF FIELD refers to the nearest and furthest points in a photo that are acceptably sharp. A small aperture gives extensive depth of field and a large aperture gives narrow depth of field.

DEPTH OF FOCUS refers to the amount the poistioning of the film or CCD can be out of position and still give acceptable sharpness. The depth of focus in a 35mm camera or a digital camera will be very small indeed. In other words, manufacturing tolerances are tight.

Hope that helps, as it is a very important distinction betweeen the two things.
Best regards, John
johnriley
Posted 11/10/2004 - 20:57 Link
Can I just define a couple of things - don't want to lecture at anyone! - but there is a big difference between DEPTH OF FIELD and DEPTH OF FOCUS.

DEPTH OF FIELD refers to the nearest and furthest points in a photo that are acceptably sharp. A small aperture gives extensive depth of field and a large aperture gives shallow depth of field.

DEPTH OF FOCUS refers to the amount the poistioning of the film or CCD can be out of position and still give acceptable sharpness. The depth of focus in a 35mm camera or a digital camera will be very small indeed. In other words, manufacturing tolerances are tight.

Hope that helps, as it is a very important distinction betweeen the two things.
Best regards, John
Phat
Posted 12/10/2004 - 02:40 Link
thanks, last night at about midnight i did a tutorial, it helped a bit but camera's are hard to understand but i will learn

it said that these speeds are exposure

Apperture - SHutter SPeed
F22 - 15
F16 - 30
f11- 60
F8 - 125
f.5.6 - 250

whats a good shutter speed for3.5?

and whens the best time to use flash?

what apperture and shutter speed should i use tonight?

(SORRY ABOUT ALL THE QUESTIONS)

my lense is well im not sure its hard to read coz its in strange writing it says SICOR for the second word and the 2 last leters on the first word are HL with MC in green after that, F3.5-4.8 ZOOM no K8801839 with a 55 next to it with a small circle with a line through itit has macro at the bottom of the focus ring (or watever it's called) I know i shouldn't take night photos but the weather at the moment is cloudy and rainy and i love the moon just peeping through the clouds. i think the camera and the lense/flash might have come from canada or somewhere else because the camera, lense, and the flash all have a bronze sticker saying
Passed
J C I I
C/D JMDC

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