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08tiger
Posted 06/05/2009 - 02:01 Link
So what do people regard as the best available 1.4 converter on the market?
C&C welcome.
Don.
aminstar
Posted 06/05/2009 - 08:49 Link
08tiger wrote:
So what do people regard as the best available 1.4 converter on the market?

Hi Donovan

I am a newbie at this but I suspect you are bound to hear from one of the experienced people here immediately asking you "attached to what lens?"

As there are different criteria for choosing TCs.

But I might be wrong and may be there is something such as a gem. Well, there is one in fact that is like gold dust amongst TCs, the Pentax 1.7x adapter. Its very sought after and if you check a few threads you will come across some comments about it.

But like I said, to choose a good TC might be dependent on what lens you want to use it with.

You are bound to get a response from one of the very helpful people here shortly, so I might be wrong, let's wait and see

Thanks

Amin
Anvh
Posted 06/05/2009 - 12:14 Link
The tamron 1.4 or the Kenko 1.5, there simply isn't anything else, there was an pentax 1.4 on the roadmap but not anymore.

The newest version of the tammy and the kenko can be used with SDM so the newer KAF3 lenses (DA 17-70 + newer DA*) would still have autofocus, the Pentax 1.7 has his own autofocus but is mighty expensive.

ps. it's been said that the tammy and thee kenko are the same, but tamron is hard to come by these days.

Edit: I see you have the sigma 50-500 if you planned to use it on that you will have limitations with those named above and you need to use Sigma I believe. I'm sure that somone here can explain that.
Stefan
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DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
Edited by Anvh: 06/05/2009 - 12:16
beakynet
Posted 06/05/2009 - 12:52 Link
I second the Kenko 1.5, though it does cause focus hunting on my DA* 50-135. Better on the DA* 16-50. Works a dream on my Sigma 18-200!
Bodies: K5IIs, K7, MZ5n, LX, MV
Lenses: DA*16-50, DA18-55WR, DA18-135, DAL35, M50 F2, A50 f1.4, FA50 f1.4, DA*50-135, DA55-300, Tamron 70-300, DFA 100 WR Macro, M135 f3.5, Sigma 120-400 APO DG HSM, Tokina 500 f8.0
Flash: Metz 58, Metz 48
Accessories: BG4, Pentax right angle finder, Pentax mirror adaptor lens, O-ME53 Viewfinder Loupe
Auto 110 System: Auto 110, Winder, 18mm, 24mm, 50mm, 70mm, 20-40mm, AF100P, 1.7x telecon
brownargus
Posted 06/05/2009 - 14:53 Link
beakynet wrote:
I second the Kenko 1.5, though it does cause focus hunting on my DA* 50-135. Better on the DA* 16-50. Works a dream on my Sigma 18-200!

I have the Kenko 1.5 and was disappointed that it doesn't appear to work at all on my DA* 300 mm/K10D. You have to manual focus since the lens seems to think that it is still in SDM mode. Also, with the combination attached to the camera, when you press the menu button it flashes off immediately and you cannot get into the menus. Remove just the lens leaving the convertor atached, and the Menu button functions as normal! Strange.

John
Pentax K7, Pentax DFA 100 macro, Sigma 17-70 macro, Tamron 70-200 Di LD zoom macro, Vivitar 28 f2.8 CF, Tamron 500 mirror lens, Pentax 360FGZ flash, Panasonic FZ28
Edited by brownargus: 06/05/2009 - 15:18
Mike-P
Posted 06/05/2009 - 15:17 Link
Have the Tamron 1.4x, Sigma 1.4x EX DG and Pentax 1.7x converters.
The Pentax knocks the spots off all of them even with the extra magnification. If it's for the Bigma though non of them will AF.
Edited by Mike-P: 06/05/2009 - 15:18
Hardgravity
Posted 06/05/2009 - 16:53 Link
beakynet wrote:
I second the Kenko 1.5, though it does cause focus hunting on my DA* 50-135. Better on the DA* 16-50. Works a dream on my Sigma 18-200!

Interesting, I'm considering a Kenko 1.5x for use on my Sigma 18-200, looking at the aperture settings it should also work on my Tamron70-300.

Anybody tried this combo?
Cheers, HG

K110+DA40, K200+DA35, K3 and a bag of lenses, bodies and other bits.

Mustn't forget the Zenits, or folders, or...

PPG entries.
Anvh
Posted 06/05/2009 - 19:43 Link
brownargus wrote:
I have the Kenko 1.5 and was disappointed that it doesn't appear to work at all on my DA* 300 mm/K10D. You have to manual focus since the lens seems to think that it is still in SDM mode. Also, with the combination attached to the camera, when you press the menu button it flashes off immediately and you cannot get into the menus. Remove just the lens leaving the convertor atached, and the Menu button functions as normal! Strange.

Very strange indeed, SDM should simply work though the Tamron and the Kenko are the same in design.
You do have a TC with the SDM/powerzoom connections right?
Stefan
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K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
bforbes
Posted 06/05/2009 - 20:04 Link
The DA* 300 still has the camera driven focus spigot. so you would think that it would use that system on a none SDM Kenko 1.5x with Auto Focus, but it will only manual focus
Anvh
Posted 06/05/2009 - 20:58 Link
Yes since the camera gets the info that the lens can do SDM so it won't use the camera driven focus but is trying to use the SDM to focus, if the TC doens't have the contacts the signal doesn't come trhough of course.

I don't believe there is away around it, for camera driven AF the camera also wants the lens information so covering up contacts wouldn't work I think.
Stefan
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K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
Edited by Anvh: 06/05/2009 - 20:59
RichardDay
Posted 06/05/2009 - 21:35 Link
Anvh wrote:
brownargus wrote:
I have the Kenko 1.5 and was disappointed that it doesn't appear to work at all on my DA* 300 mm/K10D. You have to manual focus since the lens seems to think that it is still in SDM mode. Also, with the combination attached to the camera, when you press the menu button it flashes off immediately and you cannot get into the menus. Remove just the lens leaving the convertor atached, and the Menu button functions as normal! Strange.

Very strange indeed, SDM should simply work though the Tamron and the Kenko are the same in design.
You do have a TC with the SDM/powerzoom connections right?

The latest Kenko 1.5x DG TC's don't have the power connections wired through, you need to have the version with the suffix/prefix Pz (Power zoom).

I had the Tamron 1.4x Pz-AF TC and that worked fine with no hunting on my new DA*60-250, but the previous generation SDM DA* lenses used to hunt and then give up.

I agreed to sell it before I tried it out on my 60-250, so asked the boys at SRS to try their stock of Kenko converters, sadly no go.
Best regards
Richard Day

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bforbes
Posted 06/05/2009 - 22:11 Link
Anvh wrote:
Yes since the camera gets the info that the lens can do SDM so it won't use the camera driven focus but is trying to use the SDM to focus, if the TC doens't have the contacts the signal doesn't come trhough of course.

I don't believe there is away around it, for camera driven AF the camera also wants the lens information so covering up contacts wouldn't work I think.

If that is the case then Pentax fitting the Drive Spigot to the DA*300 would be pointless.
bforbes
Posted 06/05/2009 - 22:17 Link
RichardDay wrote:
Anvh wrote:
Quote:
I have the Kenko 1.5 and was disappointed that it doesn't appear to work at all on my DA* 300 mm/K10D. You have to manual focus since the lens seems to think that it is still in SDM mode. Also, with the combination attached to the camera, when you press the menu button it flashes off immediately and you cannot get into the menus. Remove just the lens leaving the convertor atached, and the Menu button functions as normal! Strange.

Very strange indeed, SDM should simply work though the Tamron and the Kenko are the same in design.
You do have a TC with the SDM/powerzoom connections right?

The latest Kenko 1.5x DG TC's don't have the power connections wired through, you need to have the version with the suffix/prefix Pz (Power zoom).


Richard The Kenko ones you are looking for are Pz-AF 1.5X Teleplus SHQ these work on SDM. Pz-AF 1.5X Teleplus MC do NOT
Anvh
Posted 06/05/2009 - 22:30 Link
bforbes wrote:
Anvh wrote:
Yes since the camera gets the info that the lens can do SDM so it won't use the camera driven focus but is trying to use the SDM to focus, if the TC doens't have the contacts the signal doesn't come trhough of course.

I don't believe there is away around it, for camera driven AF the camera also wants the lens information so covering up contacts wouldn't work I think.

If that is the case then Pentax fitting the Drive Spigot to the DA*300 would be pointless.

No it isn't pointless beacuse the older models Pentax DSLR can't use the SDM but will use the Drive Spigot to auto focus. The newer Pentax's like the DA*55 and the DA17-70 are KAF3 and don't have a drive spigot anymore but KAF2 still has.

If the camera sees it's an SDM lens it will use that of course and not the drive spigot, you would get troubles I believe if the camera tries to use both. It also doesn't make sense that the camera doesn't use the SDM but the drive spigot if the lens has both.

If you have a K10D you can use the firmware version 1.02, that one isn't SDM capable so it will use the drive spigot but you will lose SDM support of course.

edit:Typos
Stefan
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K10D, K5
DA* 16-50, DA* 50-135, D-FA 100 Macro, DA 40 Ltd, DA 18-55
AF-540FGZ
Edited by Anvh: 06/05/2009 - 22:32
bforbes
Posted 06/05/2009 - 22:49 Link
I understand what you mean now Stefan. What i do not understand is, if a TC with no SDM contacts is placed between a SDM camera and a SDM lens, how does the the fact it's a SDM lens get transmitted?

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