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Posted 20/02/2011 - 14:07 - Helpful Comment
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Something you might want to consider is getting a cheap K5 grip from ebay. That'll take 6 AA betteries, or unbrandded equivalent batteries. You won't have to worry about poor quality batteries ruining the camera - they'll just ruin the cheap grip.
I have one of these cheap grips, and they do genuinely feel cheap. The buttons and wheels aren't great quality, and the plastic feels cheap. If I was only using it as an extra power store, I might not be as annoyed with the grip.
I have one of these cheap grips, and they do genuinely feel cheap. The buttons and wheels aren't great quality, and the plastic feels cheap. If I was only using it as an extra power store, I might not be as annoyed with the grip.
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Posted 20/02/2011 - 14:10 - Helpful Comment
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try the Innov8 D-LI90 equivalent on Amazon they are nearly half the price charged by SRS at the moment. £16 instead of of around £30.
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Posted 20/02/2011 - 17:16 - Helpful Comment
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Let me see if I can dig up the information from dpreview on K-5 batteries. Essentially it showed that all are quite bad except the Pentax and Hahnel ones.
Posted 20/02/2011 - 17:19 - Helpful Comment
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Here it is:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=37224059
After seeing those tests I'd choose Pentax first, then Hahnel and finally Inov8. The rest seems to be too far off the stated capacity.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=37224059
After seeing those tests I'd choose Pentax first, then Hahnel and finally Inov8. The rest seems to be too far off the stated capacity.
Posted 20/02/2011 - 18:31 - Helpful Comment
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Meh!
I use 2* ebay batteries on rotation and save the Pentax authentic for occasions where I might need the full capacity and reliability.
The comparisons leave out the cost which might help.
ebay battery cost / watt hour = 8.99 / 1.209 = £7.44 per Amp hour
Pentax = 59.99 / 1.851 = £31.41 per Amp hour.
Inov8 = 16.42 / 1.234 = £13.31 per Amp hour.
The Inov8 is probably made from the same cells as the ebay sepcials but is just branded by a company who brand ( I originally wrote make) a bunch of other stuff. They just don't make such outlandish claims about its capacity.
I've once run out of power with the ebay batteries when out for a day's shooting. I don't remember having charged it before I went out and I just popped the other one in and carried on.
Anyway, as I understand it, the cells deteriorate as they are cycled. So hopefully as I don't subject the pentax to as many cycles it will last me longer. Making the £60 battery last the lifetime of the camera.
If I was a wedding photographer then I might want to spend a few hundred quid making sure I can do my my business without running down my battery. As I'm not I'll spend the £18 on 2 ebay specials.
The original capacity battery is quoted as lasting for 980 shots (p46 manual, conditional). The ebay specials are 65% capacity and you'll be looking at about 630 shots.
So with my 2 ebays and 1 original it makes a long day of 2254 (ish) images. About 22GB and I carry 32GB (4*8GB) memory cards 2 fast and 2 cheap. I should be OK.
I use 2* ebay batteries on rotation and save the Pentax authentic for occasions where I might need the full capacity and reliability.
The comparisons leave out the cost which might help.
ebay battery cost / watt hour = 8.99 / 1.209 = £7.44 per Amp hour
Pentax = 59.99 / 1.851 = £31.41 per Amp hour.
Inov8 = 16.42 / 1.234 = £13.31 per Amp hour.
The Inov8 is probably made from the same cells as the ebay sepcials but is just branded by a company who brand ( I originally wrote make) a bunch of other stuff. They just don't make such outlandish claims about its capacity.
I've once run out of power with the ebay batteries when out for a day's shooting. I don't remember having charged it before I went out and I just popped the other one in and carried on.
Anyway, as I understand it, the cells deteriorate as they are cycled. So hopefully as I don't subject the pentax to as many cycles it will last me longer. Making the £60 battery last the lifetime of the camera.
If I was a wedding photographer then I might want to spend a few hundred quid making sure I can do my my business without running down my battery. As I'm not I'll spend the £18 on 2 ebay specials.
The original capacity battery is quoted as lasting for 980 shots (p46 manual, conditional). The ebay specials are 65% capacity and you'll be looking at about 630 shots.
So with my 2 ebays and 1 original it makes a long day of 2254 (ish) images. About 22GB and I carry 32GB (4*8GB) memory cards 2 fast and 2 cheap. I should be OK.
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Posted 20/02/2011 - 18:46
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Thanks for all the suggestions. I had no idea such detailed test data even existed! I'm still not sure what I'll go for but I'll browse around a bit for prices and make my mind up in the next few days. I'm still not sure I'd trust the totally unbranded varieties (i.e. eBay specials). I've witnessed first hand the mess a leaking battery can make of an expensive piece of electronic equipment in the past and the experience has left me somewhat wary.
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Posted 20/02/2011 - 18:57 - Helpful Comment
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Hahnel if you can get is for £25 more like £27.50 delivered seems a nice balance.
27.50 / 1.531 = £17.96 per Amp hour.
If you make the choice not to use Pentax batteries you are taking a risk. As pentax will find it hard to wriggle out of a warranty repair as their battery damaged their camera. people will say I would not risk using anything else. If I had just bought a K-5 then the extra £60 might not kill me. If I have a 12 month old K-7 or a GX10 then I choose ebay specials.
After the choice not to use Pentax it's just a matter of the probability your battery is going to blow up your camera. I would trust the good solid sounding German brand Hahnel more than Inov8 and waaaay more than billy no name on ebay. ANyway I buy the ebay ones and so far so good.
27.50 / 1.531 = £17.96 per Amp hour.
If you make the choice not to use Pentax batteries you are taking a risk. As pentax will find it hard to wriggle out of a warranty repair as their battery damaged their camera. people will say I would not risk using anything else. If I had just bought a K-5 then the extra £60 might not kill me. If I have a 12 month old K-7 or a GX10 then I choose ebay specials.
After the choice not to use Pentax it's just a matter of the probability your battery is going to blow up your camera. I would trust the good solid sounding German brand Hahnel more than Inov8 and waaaay more than billy no name on ebay. ANyway I buy the ebay ones and so far so good.
Lurking is shirking.!
Posted 20/02/2011 - 19:08
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dougf8 wrote:
If I had just bought a K-5 then the extra £60 might not kill me.
The cost of the K-5 nearly killed me already . Trust me, it was not a frivolous purchase. It was six solid months of hard saving complete with Scrooge-like behaviour to maximise savings from each month's salary. (As mentioned elsewhere I have a tolerant wife). Having said that, of course, it just makes it even more of a disaster if a dodgy battery wrecks my beautiful and hard-earned new camera.
If I had just bought a K-5 then the extra £60 might not kill me.
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Posted 20/02/2011 - 19:10
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Tyr wrote:
Let me see if I can dig up the information from dpreview on K-5 batteries. Essentially it showed that all are quite bad except the Pentax and Hahnel ones.
not very good review then. All the 'cheap' Ebay Batteries I've had both K10D/K20 and my K5 have been absolutely fine.
Let me see if I can dig up the information from dpreview on K-5 batteries. Essentially it showed that all are quite bad except the Pentax and Hahnel ones.
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Posted 20/02/2011 - 19:30
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MarkTaylor wrote:
I fully understand, none of my purchases are done lightly (apart from the book I got involved in a bidding war over and ended up paying £31 for when it should have been £5!!!!! furious). Sounds like you might save for a month or two then buy the battery.dougf8 wrote:
If I had just bought a K-5 then the extra £60 might not kill me.
The cost of the K-5 nearly killed me already . Trust me, it was not a frivolous purchase. It was six solid months of hard saving complete with Scrooge-like behaviour to maximise savings from each month's salary. (As mentioned elsewhere I have a tolerant wife). Having said that, of course, it just makes it even more of a disaster if a dodgy battery wrecks my beautiful and hard-earned new camera.If I had just bought a K-5 then the extra £60 might not kill me.
Nobody, however rich, has a better Pentax APS-C DSLR than you. How democratic!
Make your first good print a present to your wife. I wish I'd done that (by that I mean my wife, not yours :shock
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Posted 20/02/2011 - 21:09
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Smeggypants wrote:
They may have been fine function wise but the capacity will not be what is stated.Tyr wrote:
Let me see if I can dig up the information from dpreview on K-5 batteries. Essentially it showed that all are quite bad except the Pentax and Hahnel ones.
not very good review then. All the 'cheap' Ebay Batteries I've had both K10D/K20 and my K5 have been absolutely fine.Let me see if I can dig up the information from dpreview on K-5 batteries. Essentially it showed that all are quite bad except the Pentax and Hahnel ones.
Pentax, Hahnel and Inov8 are the only ones that come close to the stated capacity.
Pentax has the highest capacity of any batteries so the best shoot duration.
In our K10Ds we have mix of 1 Hahnel, 1 Inov8 and 2 Pentax batteries. They are all working fine, never had a problem. Just saying I'd trust a company which states as close as possible the true capacity much more.
Pentax is very pricey, so Hahnel (WEX) and Inov8 (SRS) are the best options.
Posted 20/02/2011 - 21:34 - Helpful Comment
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I have two Jupio batteries plus the original Pentax battery. They all work equally well, and give approximately the same number of photos per charge.
The Jupios were actually better than the Pentax in the severe cold.
The Jupios were actually better than the Pentax in the severe cold.
Posted 20/02/2011 - 22:15
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Gwyn wrote:
I have two Jupio batteries plus the original Pentax battery. They all work equally well, and give approximately the same number of photos per charge.
The Jupios were actually better than the Pentax in the severe cold.
Jupio might be not a bad option. I found out they offer a 3 year warranty; something that companies who have little faith in their products don't tend to offer, so I take it as a good sign.
I have two Jupio batteries plus the original Pentax battery. They all work equally well, and give approximately the same number of photos per charge.
The Jupios were actually better than the Pentax in the severe cold.
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Posted 20/02/2011 - 23:23
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Tyr wrote:
Sorry but you don't know that. You're just repeating parrot fashion what you read on the internet.Smeggypants wrote:
They may have been fine function wise but the capacity will not be what is stated.Tyr wrote:
Let me see if I can dig up the information from dpreview on K-5 batteries. Essentially it showed that all are quite bad except the Pentax and Hahnel ones.
not very good review then. All the 'cheap' Ebay Batteries I've had both K10D/K20 and my K5 have been absolutely fine.Let me see if I can dig up the information from dpreview on K-5 batteries. Essentially it showed that all are quite bad except the Pentax and Hahnel ones.
I can't speak for all types of 3rd party batteries and would never claim to. I'm sure some of them aren'ty very good. However all the 'cheap' Ebay Batteries I've had both on my K10D/K20 and my K5 have been absolutely fine. I would not have said 'fine' had they had a rubbish capacity. I've noticed no less capacity with them.
The dpreview only applies to the batteries it's tested. Maybe I'm just lucky.
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Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
Flash: AF-540FGZ, Vivitar 283
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After numerous searches I noticed that Energizer do a D-LI90 equivalent which can be had for a pretty reasonable price (provided you don't buy it from Jessops :roll. Energizer normally being a pretty reliable brand in my experience, I might be inclined to go for this.
Anybody have any experience with these? If not, is there any other reasonably-priced brand people would recommend?
Thanks in advance.