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Posted 21/02/2011 - 17:43
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Smeggypants wrote:
Sorry but you don't know that. You're just repeating parrot fashion what you read on the internet.[/quote]C'mon Smeggypants, you can't on the one hand say that the test is wrong because it doesn't agree with your own experiences, and then on the other hand bite Tyr's head off (in an unpleasant way, I might add) for saying you were wrong because your experiences don't agree with someone's published results.Tyr wrote:
They may have been fine function wise but the capacity will not be what is stated.Smeggypants wrote:
[quote:3496ace15f="Tyr"]Let me see if I can dig up the information from dpreview on K-5 batteries. Essentially it showed that all are quite bad except the Pentax and Hahnel ones.
not very good review then. All the 'cheap' Ebay Batteries I've had both K10D/K20 and my K5 have been absolutely fine.[quote:3496ace15f="Tyr"]Let me see if I can dig up the information from dpreview on K-5 batteries. Essentially it showed that all are quite bad except the Pentax and Hahnel ones.
The test looks pretty good to me. It appears to have been carried out by someone who is able to find their backside without resorting to radar and a map.
I personally use a combination of Pentax, Innov8 and ebay specials, but I may ditch the ebay specials just for peace of mind. Keep your eyes on the classified section here
I also note Doug8's very good points that the test is only testing capacity vs claimed capacity. It has no relevance to which battery is 'best' or safest or most reliable. For those things I would go with my instinct and put my faith in the companies that stand behind their product with a decent guarantee.
Tim
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Posted 21/02/2011 - 18:04
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Sorry but you don't know that. You're just repeating parrot fashion what you read on the internet.[/quote]C'mon Smeggypants, you can't on the one hand say that the test is wrong because it doesn't agree with your own experiences, and then on the other hand bite Tyr's head off (in an unpleasant way, I might add) for saying you were wrong because your experiences don't agree with someone's published results.Smeggypants wrote:
They may have been fine function wise but the capacity will not be what is stated.Tyr wrote:
[quote:3496ace15f="Smeggypants"][quote:3496ace15f="Tyr"]Let me see if I can dig up the information from dpreview on K-5 batteries. Essentially it showed that all are quite bad except the Pentax and Hahnel ones.
not very good review then. All the 'cheap' Ebay Batteries I've had both K10D/K20 and my K5 have been absolutely fine.[quote:3496ace15f="Smeggypants"][quote:3496ace15f="Tyr"]Let me see if I can dig up the information from dpreview on K-5 batteries. Essentially it showed that all are quite bad except the Pentax and Hahnel ones.
[/quote]Firstly I didn't say the test was wrong, so why claim I did?
Secondly I didn't bite anyone's head off. Pretty unfair to claim that when I simply explained to Tyr that the test didn't quality anyone to make claims on every battery in existence.
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Essentially it showed that all are quite bad except the Pentax and Hahnel ones.
My repeated point is that the test is only valid for the batteries involved in the test , and despite your claim, I've never disputed the findings of the test.Essentially it showed that all are quite bad except the Pentax and Hahnel ones.
I'm sure some batteries out there don't perform well, but as I've said the one's I've had upto now have been fine. If I ever buy any that don't come up to scratch I'll happily say so here so others can avoid buying them
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Posted 21/02/2011 - 18:12
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OK you didn't say 'the test is wrong' but you disagreed with the results, saying 'not very good review'. Is that more accurate?
I don't think what I said is unfair at all. Comparing someone to a parrot doesn't ordinarily count as a considered thoughtful reply.
I don't think what I said is unfair at all. Comparing someone to a parrot doesn't ordinarily count as a considered thoughtful reply.
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Posted 21/02/2011 - 18:16
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Smeggypants wrote:
So are you saying that your batteries from ebay aren't the same as the ebay ones used in the test? In what way are they different?
Tyr wrote:
Essentially it showed that all are quite bad except the Pentax and Hahnel ones.
My repeated point is that the test is only valid for the batteries involved in the test , and despite your claim, I've never disputed the findings of the test.Essentially it showed that all are quite bad except the Pentax and Hahnel ones.
Tim
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Posted 21/02/2011 - 18:35
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Smeggypants wrote:
I'm beginning to understand more than I ever wanted to know about why the pants are smeggy.
Pentaxophile wrote:
... and tethering. Smeggypants wrote:
I'd buy Hassleblad toilet paper
Need medium format, eh? I'd buy Hassleblad toilet paper
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Posted 21/02/2011 - 19:02
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hehe
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Posted 21/02/2011 - 19:04
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thoughton wrote:
OK you didn't say 'the test is wrong' but you disagreed with the results, saying 'not very good review'. Is that more accurate?
Where did I disagree with the results of the test? OK you didn't say 'the test is wrong' but you disagreed with the results, saying 'not very good review'. Is that more accurate?
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I don't think what I said is unfair at all. Comparing someone to a parrot doesn't ordinarily count as a considered thoughtful reply.
'parrot' was used simply as a descriptor of someone who repeats ad verbatim. it wasn't perjorative just descriptive.
I don't think what I said is unfair at all. Comparing someone to a parrot doesn't ordinarily count as a considered thoughtful reply.
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Posted 21/02/2011 - 19:04
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thoughton wrote:
They work absolutely fine.
Smeggypants wrote:
So are you saying that your batteries from ebay aren't the same as the ebay ones used in the test? In what way are they different?Tyr wrote:
Essentially it showed that all are quite bad except the Pentax and Hahnel ones.
My repeated point is that the test is only valid for the batteries involved in the test , and despite your claim, I've never disputed the findings of the test.Essentially it showed that all are quite bad except the Pentax and Hahnel ones.
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Posted 21/02/2011 - 21:58
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I think we're in the realms of diabologic today. No cat has eight tails. A cat has one more tail than no cat. Therefore a cat has nine tails.
If you see what I mean...
If you see what I mean...
Best regards, John
Posted 21/02/2011 - 22:02
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No, but I am sure you can use illogical argument to persuade me. Is this the 3 page arguement or the full 30 pager?
Dave
Dave
Posted 21/02/2011 - 22:04
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davem wrote:
No, but I am sure you can use illogical argument to persuade me. Is this the 3 page arguement or the full 30 pager?
Dave
I've told you once.
No, but I am sure you can use illogical argument to persuade me. Is this the 3 page arguement or the full 30 pager?
Dave
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Posted 21/02/2011 - 22:10
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No you have not....
Posted 21/02/2011 - 22:31
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Yes I have.
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Posted 21/02/2011 - 22:47
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An argument cannot be a simple matter of contradictary statements....
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