Something strange on the image

aminstar
Posted 03/02/2009 - 16:44 Link
Hi everyone

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I am a newbie and still learning the technicalities of DSLR, so I needed some help understanding what might have happened on this image. I was editing and suddenly found something strange on the right hand side of the image. As if another image just overlapped on the first one, or something of the kind. Can someone please shed some light on this?

I was using a Pentax 16-45mm with it and have no clue on what this could be. So far this seems to be the only one that came out like this.

The second photo was taken from the same spot as the twig on the right hand side is a reference point

Any help would be much appreciated,

Thanks

Amin
Edited by aminstar: 03/02/2009 - 16:55
haydnw
Posted 03/02/2009 - 17:54 Link
Amin,

I'm not sure what you are asking - the only difference I can see is that the lens focal length (zoom) is set to 16mm for the shot that includes all of the car and 50mm (according to the exif info - which is odd for the 16 - 45 lens) for the one which just shows the rear light and mirror.

Having said that maybe I'm missing something - I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will have a better answer soon.
Haydn

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aminstar
Posted 03/02/2009 - 18:05 Link
Haydn

Just a few milimeters to the left of the mirror see the image how it splits? Its as if there are two images or a reflection of different light or mirror, sort of complicated to explain. But looking at it you can see something odd along the vertical line there, the image to the right of that vertical axis seems to be coming from a different source or lighting or something of the sort.

But I might be really seeing things where they dont exist , with my inexperience, but it just seems a bit odd part of that image. Even the colours are split exactly from that vertical axis.

Amin
Edited by aminstar: 03/02/2009 - 18:19
scottthehat
Posted 03/02/2009 - 18:09 Link
the pics look fine to me , the only thing i will say is you have moved to the left and zoomed in on the 2nd out.
just keep snapping,

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scottthehat
Posted 03/02/2009 - 18:12 Link
on which image and what mirror.
just keep snapping,

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Don
Posted 03/02/2009 - 18:14 Link
yeah I see it. possible water droplet(s) causing light refraction? (sort of a bifocal lens effect?)

software glitch?
Fired many shots. Didn't kill anything.
Edited by Don: 03/02/2009 - 18:15
aminstar
Posted 03/02/2009 - 18:15 Link
first image, do you see the lady in red? on the right hand side? Just a few milimeters in front of her there is a slight overlay of image, you can see from the shrubs on the ground, the slightly yellow/green one gets cut off abruptly and the one totally covered with snow starts from that point flat straight in a vertical axis, and even that plant covered with snow starts abruptly as if the image got cut out from its left
Edited by aminstar: 03/02/2009 - 18:20
aminstar
Posted 03/02/2009 - 18:18 Link
Don wrote:
yeah I see it. possible water droplet(s) causing light refraction?

software glitch?
That sounds more like it, "refraction", it was really snowing heavily and I was quite inclined in believing that its a tiny droplet which caused that refraction yup .

I recall coming indoors with the inner tube of the lens having quite a few droplets from the melted ice fallen on top of it.

Just wanted your input on that one being more experienced , that certainly leaves much more relieved. I haven't found any other image where it splits like that though , for the peace of my sanity

Thanks

Amin
Prieni
Posted 03/02/2009 - 18:26 Link
I cannot see anything unusual in this pic. The second one is taken from another viewpoint so it's difficult to compare the two.
For me it all looks real, especially since the "vertical" you refer to is inclined just as the rest of the picture. I would say it is some fence post or similar covered with snow and a different shrub growing just behind it.
You cannot see that in the second shot as the viewpoint is more to the right...

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scottthehat
Posted 03/02/2009 - 18:51 Link
i second what prieni said.
just keep snapping,

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aminstar
Posted 03/02/2009 - 18:51 Link
The lady in red is my neighbour , and I was outside taking some shots. I know there is nothing covering partially that yello/green shrub. It should be complete. The shrub looks flat when it shouldn't be and the one covered with snow which the right side in the image intesercts with the lady's red court from the right hand side should have been also rounder on the left edges.

Don, you could see it, give me a hand here help me explain, hhehehe feeling like I am sending all these helpful people in a wild goose chase.

Its night here otherwise I would go out and try to take exactly the same shot from that spot. Would be quite tricky though to simulate exactly the same circumstances due to my limited knowledge of photography but am quite tempted in doing so. See if my flash would be enough to light it up.

Wife might start thinking I am going nuts going out taking a shot of the road when after taking so many yesterday ha .

But its no big deal, its more like curiosity here on why it happened. I have gone through all the pics yesterday and no other came out like that. With my limited knowledge still I feel it must be refraction from a tiny droplet of water on the lens.

Amin
Prieni
Posted 03/02/2009 - 18:59 Link
Sorry but I don't see it. Just downloaded it and looked at 200% at it and it all looks real to me. Don't listen to Don, he probably had a drink too many

If you try to do the shot again tomorrow in daylight, that could help solve the mystery (or lack thereof). It is your neighbourhood and you should know what it really looks like.

Refraction I doubt very much. A drop on the lens wouldn't have such a localized effect.

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Argee
Posted 03/02/2009 - 19:20 Link
On the right-hand side, the fir tree nearest the lens is brighter than the one behind it. This gives the appearance of a line, sloping inward and down. The strange effect continues when the "line" apparently truncates the snow-capped pillar (if that's what it is) at the base of the tree - at least that's what attracted my eye as "unusual" in the picture.

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aminstar
Posted 03/02/2009 - 19:42 Link
Argee wrote:
On the right-hand side, the fir tree nearest the lens is brighter than the one behind it. This gives the appearance of a line, sloping inward and down. The strange effect continues when the "line" apparently truncates the snow-capped pillar (if that's what it is) at the base of the tree - at least that's what attracted my eye as "unusual" in the picture.

Ray
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That's fascinating how you managed to explain in so much detail, and here I was struggling to try to make sense expressing what I wanted to s how. .

Well, called my wife and showed her the pic. She instantly pointed to the right of the image and put her finger on the screen and said: "what is that?" .

So Don, if you have had a couple too many tonight you still are sharp as a fiddle with the eye . But please do not drive home in case you feel tempted ha .

Now who has had one too many tonight? huh Prieni?

Amin
aminstar
Posted 03/02/2009 - 19:52 Link
Right, I am going out there and check this mystery. Its making my head now. Been staring at this pic on that spot and now reading what Ray has commented the word (snow capped pillar if thats what it is) is just making my head spin and now I am starting to have doubts again that the image is how it should be.

Going to put on my boots and go out of the front door and check this out. If there is a pillar there then I see why the picture seems like that with that vertical axis appearence, probably added by the fact of the closer tree being brighter than the further one.

Back in a few minutes and let's get this one sorted ha.

Amin

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