Snowdon Railway - Mono or colour
Posted 15/07/2010 - 16:49
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Mono for me, although perhaps go a little easier on the contrast. Also there seems to be a blue halo around the steam trail?
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Posted 15/07/2010 - 17:04
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Alternatively, how about "selective colour"?
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Posted 15/07/2010 - 17:30
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My vote is for mono as well and for a lighter touch on the contrast. Regarding the selective colouring, it looks a bit smudgy. Might it be easier to desaturate everything but the red of the carriage?
Posted 15/07/2010 - 17:37
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I prefer the colour one, although the selective is also nice.
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Posted 15/07/2010 - 17:38
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What odd colour, Simon, like a sixties colour print film with a strong blue/magenta cast. But it may well be my old lap-top screen. I prefer the mono shot which is pleasingly rugged.
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Posted 15/07/2010 - 18:12
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Much as I like mono photos in this case I prefer the colour version. I think the black and white picture looks too harsh.
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Posted 15/07/2010 - 21:39
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I agree with David.
I looked at this on my works laptop and did not see the "blue halo around the steam trail".
Now at home I can see it on my calibrated monitor. The colour popped version does nothing for the overall picture IMO.
I looked at this on my works laptop and did not see the "blue halo around the steam trail".
Now at home I can see it on my calibrated monitor. The colour popped version does nothing for the overall picture IMO.
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Posted 16/07/2010 - 10:05
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Thanks for the feedback everyone
Personally I prefer the selective colour version over the B&W but with them both I'm thinking there's probably a bit too much "rubble" in the foreground that appears a bit harsh in B&W. I've tried toning down the contrast but then it looks a bit flat.
With the colour one I'm not 100% sure about the sky, the haze has produced a slightly unnatural looking colour (as Andrew mentioned), although maybe this adds to the photos appeal :confused2:
It's the blue haze that's evident in the B&W conversion - I need to desaturate the puff of smoke to remove it
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Personally I prefer the selective colour version over the B&W but with them both I'm thinking there's probably a bit too much "rubble" in the foreground that appears a bit harsh in B&W. I've tried toning down the contrast but then it looks a bit flat.
With the colour one I'm not 100% sure about the sky, the haze has produced a slightly unnatural looking colour (as Andrew mentioned), although maybe this adds to the photos appeal :confused2:
It's the blue haze that's evident in the B&W conversion - I need to desaturate the puff of smoke to remove it
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Posted 18/07/2010 - 14:39
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I like the colour version.
But what a great choice of location to capture a dramatic shot like this.
And what about the composition too? The near & distant ridges leading you to the train.
Where was the shot taken, Simon? Was it just before the train's last push to the summit station or lower down the mountain?
But what a great choice of location to capture a dramatic shot like this.
And what about the composition too? The near & distant ridges leading you to the train.
Where was the shot taken, Simon? Was it just before the train's last push to the summit station or lower down the mountain?
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Posted 18/07/2010 - 17:22
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pgweber wrote:
I like the colour version.
But what a great choice of location to capture a dramatic shot like this.
And what about the composition too? The near & distant ridges leading you to the train.
Where was the shot taken, Simon? Was it just before the train's last push to the summit station or lower down the mountain?
It's just on the last incline...the new summit building is just out of shot to the right - as are about 150 tourists !!I like the colour version.
But what a great choice of location to capture a dramatic shot like this.
And what about the composition too? The near & distant ridges leading you to the train.
Where was the shot taken, Simon? Was it just before the train's last push to the summit station or lower down the mountain?
I also shot a couple of landscapes of wider views at the top, unfortunately not in the best light but they've given me a few great ideas from my next climb up the mountain, probably nearer to sunrise sometime in septemeber/october.
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Posted 18/07/2010 - 19:10
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Great images, Simon.
Good examples of 'tonal recession' into the distance, but with strong features in the near to middle distance to lead you there.
It would be nice to try and replicate your original shot- there's something for me to do on my next Welsh trip. When I walked to the top last year, I stuck to the path all the way up from Llanberis.
Good examples of 'tonal recession' into the distance, but with strong features in the near to middle distance to lead you there.
It would be nice to try and replicate your original shot- there's something for me to do on my next Welsh trip. When I walked to the top last year, I stuck to the path all the way up from Llanberis.
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Posted 18/07/2010 - 20:29
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Colour for me, without a doubt.
The thing about this one, is that the mono treatment emphasises the foreground slate debris, which for me is totally not the only dominant element in the shot. So mono unbalances the whole to my eye.
The mono one also degrades the way the white puff of steam contrasts with the background and the clouds. This contrast is trivialised in the mono.
The icing on the cake are the elements of red, green, and blue, which the mono of course loses.
I like the colour one a lot; the mono one is unremarkable, and the popped one I hate - IMO pointless and in fact quite chavvy !!
The thing about this one, is that the mono treatment emphasises the foreground slate debris, which for me is totally not the only dominant element in the shot. So mono unbalances the whole to my eye.
The mono one also degrades the way the white puff of steam contrasts with the background and the clouds. This contrast is trivialised in the mono.
The icing on the cake are the elements of red, green, and blue, which the mono of course loses.
I like the colour one a lot; the mono one is unremarkable, and the popped one I hate - IMO pointless and in fact quite chavvy !!
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Posted 19/07/2010 - 22:03
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Personally I prefer the selective coloured one, provided you can get rid of the blue bits. And yes, maybe cut off a bit of the foreground?
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Anyway we walked up/down Snowdon and this is one of the shots I tried, which do you prefer colour or mono?
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