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stu62
Posted 29/04/2016 - 21:07 Link
how can you have a full review of somthing that as only just come out
it should say first imprestions of what the k1 is like
as how do they know what is going to happen to the camera in the next 6 months o 10000 actions down the line
johnriley
Posted 29/04/2016 - 21:12 Link
First impressions are usually gleaned from examining something at an exhibition or maybe a launch event. Full Review would mean the camera/lens has been supplied for review and all the usual technical measurements have been made, as well as a field test.

What you are referring to is more like a long term review, which is rare because the kit isn't avaialable for long periods of time. Not usually anyway.
Best regards, John
philstaff
Posted 29/04/2016 - 23:28 Link
Personally I would far sooner wait until the new camera had been out a few months. To see what gripes if any came to the surface.

Regards Ian
johnriley
Posted 30/04/2016 - 07:16 Link
Except that nobody would buy it as they waited for the reviews!
Best regards, John
MrB
Posted 30/04/2016 - 08:45 Link
I agree with Ian. Although Pentax cameras always seem to offer good 'bang for the buck', for many of us £1600 is a big sum of money, so it makes good sense to wait and see what the experience of extensive use reveals, and perhaps also to wait for a drop in price. There will always be plenty of others, who choose to afford to pay for new kit as soon as it is released, who can give longer-term usage reports.

What I don't understand is the posting of web-size images from a K-1 in forums. Are they significantly different compared with similar shots from a K-3 or a K-5 or a K-r or even an MX-1? Some of them might be good photographs (content, composition, etc.), but what can those small posted images usefully tell us about this new camera, other than when it is switched on it actually works?

Cheers.
Philip
McGregNi
Posted 30/04/2016 - 10:14 Link
'...who choose to afford to pay ...' Clever phrasing there, and I suspect it relates more to the truth than the usual 'can/can't afford it'. Financial situations very widely of course, but in these days of easy credit it is usually the case that we can have what we want, if we are prepared to increase debt for it or increase the period of time until we may be debt free ...

(well that's the reality of bringing up a family in Greater London on a single income anyway). It's about deciding priorities for me, and can it be justified balanced against overwhelming other needs.

Lets face it, most on here who can just buy a K1 from scratch, the early adopters, as well as keep a collection of glass that's worthwhile on full frame, are those who've worked their careers , paid the mortgage and the bills already, and were lucky to live in a time when their pension has built up enough.

They shouldn't mind the job of being the unpaid reviewers and testers for the rest of us, who one day might decide to choose to afford a K1

Philip, in relation to the issue of examining images on the web ....I don't think aspects such as sharpness/resolution can be assessed intelligently at all .... There are way too many variables involved in getting from the original camera output through to the final display on monitor.... Its impossible. . If anyone doubts that then post a K1 shot and I'll give you a K7 one that'll look even sharper!

Dynamic range and noise are probably easier to judge if we know what sort of processing has already been done.
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Edited by McGregNi: 30/04/2016 - 10:22
Stuey
Posted 30/04/2016 - 10:34 Link
I just pleased that the k1 has arrived

As long as those who buy one are happy I don't really care much after that

As for who can afford it or can't that's also irrelevant to me and brands need early adopters, businesses rely on them so a big thumbs up from me to them.

I am not in that category by choice and all brands of just about everything would fail if every consumer was like me

I look forward to user reviews, online and magazine reviews etc, I look forward to Pentax sorting out any issues should they arrive but most of all I look forward to the images and user experiences as then and only then may I make a decision on whether or not to buy one

However, should anything happen to either my k5 or k10, my enjoyment of having two camera bodies could force the issue

In the me a time, those so called 'early adopters' I salute you be your purchase be by whatever means and for whatever reasons
K10D, K5 plus plenty of clueless enthusiasm.

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Edited by Stuey: 30/04/2016 - 10:34
McGregNi
Posted 30/04/2016 - 10:44 Link
Yes, keep buying! What's good for Pentax now will eventually be good for all of us
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Edited by McGregNi: 30/04/2016 - 10:45
Mike-P
Posted 30/04/2016 - 10:53 Link
Stuey wrote:
I just pleased that the k1 has arrived

As long as those who buy one are happy I don't really care much after that

As for who can afford it or can't that's also irrelevant to me and brands need early adopters, businesses rely on them so a big thumbs up from me to them.


Totally agree with all that.

Personally I could afford to buy one right now but I have never bought a camera at it's release date because first of all I want others to iron out all the problems and secondly it's a matter of principle with me that I don't pay full price and then have to watch the price drop around 25% in 6 months.

Ideal time for me will possibly be the black Friday sales as SRS did some extremely good offers last year.
whatsthisbuttondo
Posted 30/04/2016 - 11:03 Link
Ephotozine have a review on
DaveKitson
Posted 30/04/2016 - 11:25 Link
Mike-P wrote:
......secondly it's a matter of principle with me that I don't pay full price and then have to watch the price drop around 25% in 6 months.

But having passed 70 I can't take the long-term view

davek
alimid
Posted 30/04/2016 - 11:32 Link
Pentax K-1, K-3,K-5,
RobL
Posted 30/04/2016 - 13:08 Link
McGregNi wrote:
'...

Lets face it, most on here who can just buy a K1 from scratch, the early adopters, as well as keep a collection of glass that's worthwhile on full frame, are those who've worked their careers , paid the mortgage and the bills already, and were lucky to live in a time when their pension has built up enough.

Can't let that one pass! The people you describe (like me) were paying mortgage interest rates that would make your eyes water and it was a real struggle to keep up let alone pay it off. Impossible to save then but now I have savings they return chickenfeed so I will still be working for the foreseeable future. Yes I can afford a K-1 now in the sense that I have the resources to pay, but that is £1600 less that gets put by so it is still not an easy call. But hey, I think I am entitled to enjoy what is left after the taxman has taken his cut. Don't worry Nigel the next generation will look at you with envy, having paid negligible interest on a London property you will be able to retire to a vast country pile and by then the interest rates will mean all the savings you have made will return huge dividends - maybe!
philstaff
Posted 30/04/2016 - 15:18 Link
Mike-P wrote:
Stuey wrote:
I just pleased that the k1 has arrived

As long as those who buy one are happy I don't really care much after that

As for who can afford it or can't that's also irrelevant to me and brands need early adopters, businesses rely on them so a big thumbs up from me to them.


Totally agree with all that.

Personally I could afford to buy one right now but I have never bought a camera at it's release date because first of all I want others to iron out all the problems and secondly it's a matter of principle with me that I don't pay full price and then have to watch the price drop around 25% in 6 months.

Ideal time for me will possibly be the black Friday sales as SRS did some extremely good offers last year.

That's pretty much my view as well. Although not a pentax the Fuji x pro 1 is a totally different beast to the one first set of these cameras.
Regards Ian
Algernon
Posted 30/04/2016 - 19:31 Link
The K-1 is already the 10th best selling camera in Japan......

http://s.kakaku.com/camera/digital-slr-camera/ranking_0049/

Probably online sales only.

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