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Posted 30/03/2017 - 13:51 - Helpful Comment
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A 1:1 macro lens PLUS tubes?? So you've got more than 1:1 magnification, perhaps quite a bit more!
There's good focus on the very centre of the flower, and the colour version has a gentle, pastel sort of hue. I struggle to see the point of mono flower photos, so the colour is my obvious choice ..... your mono one here lacks a range of tonal levels I feel , but we know that others will think differently
The water drop looks like some mysterious sci-fi moon base science station (there's some imagination for you!), but I guess that response points to the way that extreme macro can transport us into a different world.
The second one seems to have rather stray lighting, with little hotspots in odd places ....maybe it's the shape and depth of the subject that challenges there. I'm wondering if just a single big soft light source off in a typical portrait sort of position, say 45deg to one side, would do better with that one .....
Its good to see those tubes working and thanks for the peak into another little world
There's good focus on the very centre of the flower, and the colour version has a gentle, pastel sort of hue. I struggle to see the point of mono flower photos, so the colour is my obvious choice ..... your mono one here lacks a range of tonal levels I feel , but we know that others will think differently
The water drop looks like some mysterious sci-fi moon base science station (there's some imagination for you!), but I guess that response points to the way that extreme macro can transport us into a different world.
The second one seems to have rather stray lighting, with little hotspots in odd places ....maybe it's the shape and depth of the subject that challenges there. I'm wondering if just a single big soft light source off in a typical portrait sort of position, say 45deg to one side, would do better with that one .....
Its good to see those tubes working and thanks for the peak into another little world
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Posted 30/03/2017 - 14:31
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Cheers Nigel for that very considered reply.
I was really just trying out the tubes after the last lot were shot wide open in spite of my attempts otherwise.
Off camera flash...... are you crazy man
Just trying to get to grips with the ring flash at the minute. Need to get a flash to try it off camera, another thing for the shopping list.
Cheers
Derek
I was really just trying out the tubes after the last lot were shot wide open in spite of my attempts otherwise.
Off camera flash...... are you crazy man
Just trying to get to grips with the ring flash at the minute. Need to get a flash to try it off camera, another thing for the shopping list.
Cheers
Derek
I know what i like, If not always why.
Posted 30/03/2017 - 15:18
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It's always good to have another item of gear to think about!
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Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver
Posted 30/03/2017 - 20:49 - Helpful Comment
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Tubes are great, I can't justify a macro lens as I know it would sit in the house. Nothing as bad as not using lenses enough!
Plus you can put any lens on them to achieve different bokeh, colour, you can change the magnification.
Mine are Pentax legacy manual ones, cost £12, and work great with a K28 3.5 with Live View.
Plus you can put any lens on them to achieve different bokeh, colour, you can change the magnification.
Mine are Pentax legacy manual ones, cost £12, and work great with a K28 3.5 with Live View.
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Posted 30/03/2017 - 22:09
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nocturnal wrote:
Tubes are great, I can't justify a macro lens as I know it would sit in the house. Nothing as bad as not using lenses enough!
Plus you can put any lens on them to achieve different bokeh, colour, you can change the magnification.
Mine are Pentax legacy manual ones, cost £12, and work great with a K28 3.5 with Live View.
I'd agree absolutely, I've used my old tubes and de-glassed 2x tc with an m 28mm and a few other manual lenses and have gotten some decent and interesting shots. Tubes are great, I can't justify a macro lens as I know it would sit in the house. Nothing as bad as not using lenses enough!
Plus you can put any lens on them to achieve different bokeh, colour, you can change the magnification.
Mine are Pentax legacy manual ones, cost £12, and work great with a K28 3.5 with Live View.
Cheers
Derek
I know what i like, If not always why.
Posted 31/03/2017 - 00:36 - Helpful Comment
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Ringflash often does do strange things to images. I agree with Nigel about the 2nd one benefitting from a softer source off to one side. Don't forget that if it isn't going to run away or blow in the wind you can use a very long exposure at ISO100 with a tripod. Therefore, you can wave a smelly piece of gold or silver coated card (from a smoked salmon pack) around and paint it with reflected daylight for maybe 6 or 8 seconds. I've used 20 seconds before now.
If you want to use flash, I use Nissin 'synchro-eye' slave units to trigger remote flashes at times. You can use old units with them that would likely fry your DSLR electronics if connected to the camera. They simply need to detect a flash from the on-board flash so you can shield the subject from that with a bit of card whilst allowing the light to reach the slave unit. You can pick them up off Ebay for maybe a fiver - solid state and excellent.
If you want to use flash, I use Nissin 'synchro-eye' slave units to trigger remote flashes at times. You can use old units with them that would likely fry your DSLR electronics if connected to the camera. They simply need to detect a flash from the on-board flash so you can shield the subject from that with a bit of card whilst allowing the light to reach the slave unit. You can pick them up off Ebay for maybe a fiver - solid state and excellent.
Posted 31/03/2017 - 19:03 - Helpful Comment
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Hi Derek
Great to see you making use of the tubes! I really must make the time to do more macro this year, it's one of my photography passions and we have a back garden that's ideal for it (lots of semi wild areas).
The lighting looks to be quite even, if a little subdued? Off camera flash is a great idea for macro, it's easy to do with some triggers such as the Apeture ones. I use a softbox in preference to ringflash because it avoids odd reflections, for example in the eyes of an insect.
I like the third image best, the water droplet adds interest to it. I'm no expert, but FWIW I always try to add a compositional element to my macro shots, i.e. to give depth and to lead the eye in. I think a lead-in is something that's not quite there in these shots, a slightly different angle can make all the difference.
Best regards
David
Great to see you making use of the tubes! I really must make the time to do more macro this year, it's one of my photography passions and we have a back garden that's ideal for it (lots of semi wild areas).
The lighting looks to be quite even, if a little subdued? Off camera flash is a great idea for macro, it's easy to do with some triggers such as the Apeture ones. I use a softbox in preference to ringflash because it avoids odd reflections, for example in the eyes of an insect.
I like the third image best, the water droplet adds interest to it. I'm no expert, but FWIW I always try to add a compositional element to my macro shots, i.e. to give depth and to lead the eye in. I think a lead-in is something that's not quite there in these shots, a slightly different angle can make all the difference.
Best regards
David
Posted 31/03/2017 - 22:44
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Fantastic clarity and sharpness.
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