MZ6/7 or PZ10?

Pentaxophile
Posted 01/06/2011 - 18:14 Link
Thinking of a film camera that will work properly with my lenses (not just in P mode as with the P30)... I have whittled it down to these two bargain-bucket (under £20!) choices. Any thoughts on which way to go? The PZ10 is a more serious looking 'beast', but then again the MZ6 or 7 are more compact. Shame about the silver plastic though!
Cayman
Posted 01/06/2011 - 19:03 Link
MZ6 is a generation newer - I suspect the AF will be better. Might be worth checking battery prices though - I seem to remember they were much more expensive with the MZ series than the PZ series.
Dangermouse
Posted 01/06/2011 - 19:17 Link
I think the PZ10 was sold as the Z10 in the UK?

Have a look at the Dimitrov K mount site to compare specifications. Personally I'd want the MZ6 as it can be programmed to leave the film leader out (handy for those of us with Agfa Rondinax dev tanks).

Don't worry about batteries by the way - Pentax made a battery grip to allow the MZ series bodies to run from four AAs.
Matt

Shooting the Welsh Wilderness with K-m, KX, MX, ME Super and assorted lenses.
Pentaxophile
Posted 01/06/2011 - 19:30 Link
Yes, Z10, that's the one!

The battery issue is a good point... CR2 batteries are about half the price of CR5's, which I note the Z10 takes. Presumably it needed more power for the power zoom. MZ6/7 it is then! I quite liked the 80's looking Z10 but perhaps the MZ6 or 7 would be better - they also have AEL which the Z10 lacks. I have always found that an extremely useful feature.
Edited by Pentaxophile: 01/06/2011 - 19:30
Dangermouse
Posted 01/06/2011 - 20:46 Link
Some of the MZ series also support power zoom (although only the powered zoom and lens retraction functions), not entirely sure which but obviously they have the extra contacts.

I could still do with a new focus screen for my MZ-10, although I'm avoiding spending anything for a month or so as I'm saving for that Tamron 70-200mm f2.8!
Matt

Shooting the Welsh Wilderness with K-m, KX, MX, ME Super and assorted lenses.
Mannesty
Posted 01/06/2011 - 23:37 Link
Pentaxophile, you have a PM.
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fatspider
Posted 02/06/2011 - 00:07 Link
CR2's used to be around a fiver apiece but the price has dropped considerably, I've seen them for £2.50 or less.

EDIT: thinking about it you should ba able to pick up a grip for the MZ6/7 at a reasonable price, then you could use AA's
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Edited by fatspider: 02/06/2011 - 00:08
Jetsam1
Posted 02/06/2011 - 10:13 Link
I have a recently purchased MZ7 and think it is very decent for the money they go for. Would like an autofocus prime (much to expensive!!!) but the 28-80mm zoom is surprisingly good. Even when using really, really cheap film!
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Pentaxophile
Posted 02/06/2011 - 12:43 Link
Jetsam1 wrote:
I have a recently purchased MZ7 and think it is very decent for the money they go for. Would like an autofocus prime (much to expensive!!!) but the 28-80mm zoom is surprisingly good. Even when using really, really cheap film!
Funny enough i'm after this camera to use my af prime - the DA 35mm. I was under the impression this would work on my P30t camera but with the aperture wide open. Unfortunately the aperture is stopped right down which is obviously not as usable!
johnriley
Posted 02/06/2011 - 13:09 Link
Won't it work on your P30T in Program mode?
Best regards, John
Edited by johnriley: 02/06/2011 - 13:09
Dangermouse
Posted 02/06/2011 - 13:21 Link
It certainly should work on a P30/P30T in program mode, you'll just have no control over the aperture (and won't even know what aperture it set!)

I'll try it on my Super A now and see what happens, watch this space.

Right, tried it. The Super A was able to read the aperture from the lens and presumably set it too. I can't see why the P30T wouldn't manage this.
Matt

Shooting the Welsh Wilderness with K-m, KX, MX, ME Super and assorted lenses.
Edited by Dangermouse: 02/06/2011 - 13:31
johnwhit
Posted 02/06/2011 - 13:28 Link
Can you control the aperture with the MZ-7/6 from the body? I thought only the Z1/Z1-P and MZ-S had that feature.

John
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Dangermouse
Posted 02/06/2011 - 13:32 Link
If they offer shutter priority auto then you can force the use of the desired aperture by changing the shutter speed, a bit of a kludge but it seemed to work on the Super A just now.
Matt

Shooting the Welsh Wilderness with K-m, KX, MX, ME Super and assorted lenses.
johnwhit
Posted 02/06/2011 - 13:39 Link
Right yes, thought so, I can do that with the MZ-3 but keep thinking that a cheap body would be nice to use DA lenses with film if it offered aperture priority with the aperture set from the body.

John
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Pentaxophile
Posted 02/06/2011 - 13:41 Link
johnriley wrote:
Won't it work on your P30T in Program mode?
Yes it will, but there is no way of knowing what aperture is being selected!

Second hand film bodies are so cheap it seems reasonable to spend £15 on a body which will work in Av mode, and even has autofocus!

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