more ff rumors part 2


stu62

Link Posted 23/10/2015 - 14:46
here are more rumores which look good
http://cameratimes.org/pentax-full-frame-dslr-camera-images-photoplus-
Last Edited by stu62 on 23/10/2015 - 14:46

Nigelk

Link Posted 23/10/2015 - 16:27
I don't really need one. I want one of course. It will be interesting to see the specs. as they come out and what new features filter into the next aps-c top end camera. I believe that eventually nearly all cameras will be mirrorless.............but in the meantime.

johnriley

Link Posted 23/10/2015 - 16:51
It's a different discussion really, but there are so many ways in which mirrorless cameras can't do what the DSLR does. Sport, wildlife, studio, wedding....all are so much easier with the DSLR.

I can't see any mirrorless camera working well with the 150-450mm zoom and similar lenses.
Best regards, John

stu62

Link Posted 23/10/2015 - 17:00
you like the look of the new ff john if that is what it is going to come out like

johnriley

Link Posted 23/10/2015 - 17:08
I think things look very promising, so we'll see when the choice is there and the costs are known.

Even though I don't necessarily need a FF camera, never say never. I am persuadable.
Best regards, John

McGregNi

Link Posted 23/10/2015 - 18:38
But you won't be able to shoot any more wildlife with your lovely new zoom John.... Have to keep the K5 for that ....
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hogboy

Link Posted 23/10/2015 - 21:19
johnriley wrote:
It's a different discussion really, but there are so many ways in which mirrorless cameras can't do what the DSLR does. Sport, wildlife, studio, wedding....all are so much easier with the DSLR.

Having owned most of the K series dslrs, i do find this statement rather puzzling, in what ways are dslrs easier to use ?
Sony A6000 plus a bunch of lenses
Sony A7ii plus loads of glass
Fuji X20

johnriley

Link Posted 23/10/2015 - 23:40
Quote:
Having owned most of the K series dslrs, i do find this statement rather puzzling, in what ways are dslrs easier to use ?

Viewfinder can be used without having to switch on camera; Long lenses handle better than trying to use a screen image; Pentaprism gives better view that does not lag with action shots; Tracking and panning easier; Easier to use viewfinder in very bright light; Much larger lens choice; More stable cameras for hand holding; More physical controls as opposed to dipping into menus; Faster response and less shutter lag; Larger batteries for more shots per charge; Better weather sealing......

and I'm sure lots of other reasons too. Hope that helps!
Best regards, John

Nigelk

Link Posted 24/10/2015 - 09:10
I feel not all your points are to do with mirrorless versus with mirror John, however. Even taking those points on board I find myself looking at the latest Sony A7 mark2 cameras and thinking wow! As I have very little full frame glass if I were to move to a larger sensor size I would be looking at the whole package, camera and lenses, size cost and so on so I'll be looking at all brands to see what suits me best. I would have to say the 24 mega pixie Sony looks very very nice. The Pentax is going to have to offer something very compelling to make me stick with heavier and bulkier. I can see that if I was a wildlife or sports photographer that perhaps mirrorless is not quite there yet but I bet in most cases they would get the job done and done well.

Sorry for straying Stuart.

ilovesaabs

Link Posted 24/10/2015 - 14:16
NEED? No!
WANT? Now!

Just going back to the point I believe John is making that the humble K-5 gives us everything that most of us will ever need. Even though I've had a K-5 for nearly 4 years and the K-3 for 18 months I've never felt the need to replace the K-5.. even though Nikon have great deals for D810 and D750 I've never felt the urge to replace the D3...seems DSLR design had already reached it's zenith at around 12MP (Pentax 12MP models seem very highly regarded IIRC) and everything else since seems to be a very nice to have....

won't stop me buying the new camera though. Crafty positioning of the leather strap thingys...hiding the name - I still think L-series
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stu62

Link Posted 24/10/2015 - 14:20
lx-d would be good a bit of heritage
with room to upgrade
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Algernon

Link Posted 24/10/2015 - 14:55
It's to be called the Pentax Chunkyboy!

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Algi

Smeggypants

Link Posted 24/10/2015 - 15:39
Nigelk wrote:
I feel not all your points are to do with mirrorless versus with mirror John, however. Even taking those points on board I find myself looking at the latest Sony A7 mark2 cameras and thinking wow! As I have very little full frame glass if I were to move to a larger sensor size I would be looking at the whole package, camera and lenses, size cost and so on so I'll be looking at all brands to see what suits me best. I would have to say the 24 mega pixie Sony looks very very nice. The Pentax is going to have to offer something very compelling to make me stick with heavier and bulkier. I can see that if I was a wildlife or sports photographer that perhaps mirrorless is not quite there yet but I bet in most cases they would get the job done and done well.

Sorry for straying Stuart.

Had there been a Pentax mirrorless like the Sony's you wouldn't have had the conversion.
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stub

Link Posted 24/10/2015 - 18:07
I cant wait for the first reviews. I thought I had no intentions to spend the excess required on full frame. But when i give it some thought. For my low light gig photography. It will produce far less noise in images . For studio work the wifi option will be a great plus. Better crops from bigger file sizes. And still the crop sensor option for long lenses. Giving me that bit extra. Plus uses for my DA and other lenses.. If they keep the price sensible it can only be win win....
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Stuart..

pgweber

Link Posted 24/10/2015 - 20:14
stub wrote:
For my low light gig photography. It will produce far less noise in images .

But will it?
The pixels will be about the same size as on a 16 MP APS-C, so similar to the K5 series I would have thought.
Peter

Pentax K5
Pentax DA 18-55 Mk1, 50-200 (Samsung), 16-45, , 55-300, 35 f/2.4
Pentax MZ6 + FA28-90, FA50 f/1.4, M 50 f/1.7
Tamron 80-210mm & 28mm
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