Monitor Calibration

I got a pair of samsung 2333's calibrated with a Huey, that work fine....

I can only see the brightest 13, but then I have CRT monitors still and they can't handle it

All viewed OK on my Eizo monitor

I should hope so

errr.. rubbish, a CRT is far better than an LCD at doing grey scales. The backlight is a killer... i suspect many people are looking at 16 shades of grey on their LCD's, rather than true black!

Fine on my Tv, laptop and CRT monitor

not true.
What is true is this: I had to set the brightness on my samsungs to half brightness on the monitors control panle BEFORE calibrating with the Huey.
The manufacturer sets it bright enough to use as a video light bank from the factory. Probably to meet advertisement claims for brightness and contrast... but after dialing it down and calibrating, I assure you my samsung 2333 looked every bit as good as the older 23" apple monitor and the imac screen (g5) I tested it next to.
That is why I now own TWO of the Samsungs (at $169.00 Cdn dollars new at costco right now you'd have to be nuts to not consider one!).

Whilst you are correct that all LCD's come with their brightness turned-up to max, its still impossible to get true 100% black on any LCD because there's always a slight leakage from the backlight across the whole screen - which is one reason why LED backlights look better, although still compromised compared to Plasmas and CRT's.

For real amusement, the fun is spotting the difference between the central black and the black at the end of the greyscales... Although you probably can't see any difference after its been photographed, developed, and stuck on a webpage, but its a significant one




For more info than you ever wanted to know about test cards, see here and elsewhere ("Pluge" is the relevant bit for brightness & contrast adjustment).

I have exactly the same monitor - I was worried that the colour on S-RGB looked a little warm, but it does calibrate correctly (unlike my second monitor, a low cost Iiyama).

Thanks to monitor calibration, ignoring PSE colour controls and using the Epson printer driver colour controls, all my prints now match what's on the screen.

Jon. Thanks for the link. Very comprehensive and informative. Looking at the two Dell models 2211 and 2311. Not sure of the benefit of the bigger model.
Thanks, John. The 2209 is now updated. My experience of Dell has always been positive but just a little concerned of a posting that said that Dell has been known to change the panels in these models and there is no guarantee of a IPS panel.

regards Thoramay.

Edit: Ooops - mine is actually a 2309W (and a Samsung panel)

It's actually to look good in a big-box warehouse under mercury, or worse, lighting. Been a problem since early colour CRT's. Afflicts most tellies too.

If you have colour temperature settings on your monitor, most better units should, then start by bring the colour temp down from 9300+ to around 6500. Sometimes you can address all 3 at once, sometimes you need to do by colour. This will darken the screen and correct the screaming colours all at 1 go.

Dell and others have been caught at this repeatedly. They release using a good expensive panel, get great reviews and then substitute a different one, or a 6-bit ditherer, but leave model number the same.

That "bait and switch" has been known to happen with TV's as well
Unless you know the code off the label your pretty helpless.

It's not quite as bad as it sounds, because most TV's are rubbish anyway

I didn't say I couldn't see true black

The monitors won't resolve the darkest greys without whiting out the lightest greys.

I can see 16 but the 1st two whites are the same meaning my highlights will be all burnt out.

Samsung done with Huey and Argyll.... Tempted to try the
Samsung visual software instead. No manual controls on this
monitor.

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