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Posted 10/12/2013 - 16:30
Uf ISO limits are important get a k-5 mkii ir mkiis and with the money you saved get some nice glass.
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Posted 10/12/2013 - 17:20
If you choose the K3 or a K5 you will still be able to use the lenses that you are currently using with the ZX30.
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Posted 10/12/2013 - 17:41
Gamka wrote:
If you choose the K3 or a K5 you will still be able to use the lenses that you are currently using with the ZX30.
If you choose the K3 or a K5 you will still be able to use the lenses that you are currently using with the ZX30.
So, will it still be able to be a fully manual lens? I know if I put an older lens without a motor and stuff in it(what I call an "A ring"), my camera just blinks where the Av display is at, and won't shoot. Not sure if there would be an issue going from my zx-30 to the K3? If they do work fine I'd probably buy a prime lens with it.
I have 3 lens for my Zx-30. I have a---
Tamron 28-200 Wide angle zoom
Tamron 80-210 Zoom
Pentax 28-80 Macro zoom
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Posted 10/12/2013 - 17:51
cabstar wrote:
Uf ISO limits are important get a k-5 mkii ir mkiis and with the money you saved get some nice glass.
Uf ISO limits are important get a k-5 mkii ir mkiis and with the money you saved get some nice glass.
[i]Bodies: 1x K-5IIs, 2x K-5, Sony TX-5, Nokia 808
Lenses: Pentax DA 10-17mm ED(IF) Fish Eye, Pentax DA 14mm f/2.8, Sigma 17-70mm f/2.8, Pentax-A 28mm f/2.8, Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.2, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-FA 50mm f/1.4, Pentax-A 50mm f/1.7, Pentax DA* 50-135mm f/2.8, Sigma 135-400mm APO DG, and more ..
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Posted 10/12/2013 - 17:56
I looked up the comparison charts for the k5mkiis and the k3, the k3 still has me sold with more FPS, double SD slots, higher ISO, etc....hmm...
http://snapsort.com/compare/Pentax-K-3-vs-Pentax-K-5-IIs
http://snapsort.com/compare/Pentax-K-3-vs-Pentax-K-5-IIs
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Posted 10/12/2013 - 18:21
Useable ISO is what you need to look at, not just how high it can potentially go
Not dissimilar to the guitar amp in Spinal Tap going up to 11 rather than the usual 10
Not dissimilar to the guitar amp in Spinal Tap going up to 11 rather than the usual 10
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Posted 10/12/2013 - 18:45
Your ZX-30 will be able to use manual metering (set M on the dial.) If you are missing the instruction book it can be obtained from this site:
http://www.pentax-manuals.com/manuals/af/afmanuals.htm
Download the MZ-30 manual and look and page 51 (same camera, different name.)
The K5 and K3 are also able to use manual lenses. If the lenses have the 'A' setting all you would need to do is focus them yourself in any camera mode. The older fully manual ones would need to be metered in M or use them fully open in Av (just needs a setting changing in the menu to use the aperture ring.)
The K-3 is a very fine camera which has superseded the K-5 series. As you say it is better at most things though the jury is out as with regards to very high ISO's (6400 upwards) where the images seem slightly more noisy (nothing really to worry about.) It seems daft not to go the the K-3 unless your only consideration is taking photos at 6400 and above as below ISO 3200 where most photos are taken the K-3 wins hands down.
John K
http://www.pentax-manuals.com/manuals/af/afmanuals.htm
Download the MZ-30 manual and look and page 51 (same camera, different name.)
The K5 and K3 are also able to use manual lenses. If the lenses have the 'A' setting all you would need to do is focus them yourself in any camera mode. The older fully manual ones would need to be metered in M or use them fully open in Av (just needs a setting changing in the menu to use the aperture ring.)
The K-3 is a very fine camera which has superseded the K-5 series. As you say it is better at most things though the jury is out as with regards to very high ISO's (6400 upwards) where the images seem slightly more noisy (nothing really to worry about.) It seems daft not to go the the K-3 unless your only consideration is taking photos at 6400 and above as below ISO 3200 where most photos are taken the K-3 wins hands down.
John K
Last Edited by JAK on 10/12/2013 - 19:02
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Posted 10/12/2013 - 19:17
I'd like to chime in here also, in that if you've come from a Canon T3 then you are in for exciting times. You'll get a real increase in image quality, rugged build quality and higher dynamic range abilities.
The old lens ability is awesome, as they'll also now be image stabilized also. As above 'A' setting equipped lenses are by far the easiest older Pentax lenses to use, as ultimately you 'lose' only autofocus. If it's an M lens etc, then you have a bit more work to do, but it's not that bad either.
One thing to note is the field of view will change on these lenses when you use them on the digital body. Pentax doesn't yet offer a digital camera with a sensor the size of the film strip area. The total magnification of the lens doesn't change, but you'll get a reduced viewing angle. In practise this means it's harder to get the wide angle shots really.
Welcome to the site too by the way
The old lens ability is awesome, as they'll also now be image stabilized also. As above 'A' setting equipped lenses are by far the easiest older Pentax lenses to use, as ultimately you 'lose' only autofocus. If it's an M lens etc, then you have a bit more work to do, but it's not that bad either.
One thing to note is the field of view will change on these lenses when you use them on the digital body. Pentax doesn't yet offer a digital camera with a sensor the size of the film strip area. The total magnification of the lens doesn't change, but you'll get a reduced viewing angle. In practise this means it's harder to get the wide angle shots really.
Welcome to the site too by the way
Last Edited by richandfleur on 10/12/2013 - 19:19
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Posted 10/12/2013 - 19:23
http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/attachments/172-pentax-k-3/198044d1386700139-...
Depends on wether you want to believe them or not..
Cheers Jules...
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Depends on wether you want to believe them or not..
Cheers Jules...
My viewfinder is 576,000,000 pixels.
My other viewfinder is 5.76,000,000.
www.exaggeratedperspectives.com
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Posted 10/12/2013 - 20:13
I can't see a practical use for that high of an ISO, I guess the option that it is there is just what amazing me. I just did 3200 Ilford film, and it was almost too grainy for me. Might be fun to shoot in pitch black to see what happens on a high ISO..
I'm a bit confused with what lenses are going to fit though? I already shoot my ZX-30 in M, and with the aperture lens ring on A. I push the Av button on the side to change the aperture. I'll upload some picture of what it does. I'm sure you guys know what you're talking about, but I'm a bit confused...
I'm a bit confused with what lenses are going to fit though? I already shoot my ZX-30 in M, and with the aperture lens ring on A. I push the Av button on the side to change the aperture. I'll upload some picture of what it does. I'm sure you guys know what you're talking about, but I'm a bit confused...
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Posted 10/12/2013 - 20:35
I cannot speak of the ZX30 but I do use old lenses on my K10 and K5 - as long as you change the 'Allow aperture ring use' (or similar) in the menu to allow then it all works hunky dory 
Of course the lenses limit the camera in some ways but I really enjoy using them whether they are 'a', 'm' or 'm42'.
I don't have the K3 but in my opinion you can't go far wrong with it, however the K5 variants do leave a decent chunk of cash left for glass or beer or even a glass and beer
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Stu
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Of course the lenses limit the camera in some ways but I really enjoy using them whether they are 'a', 'm' or 'm42'.
I don't have the K3 but in my opinion you can't go far wrong with it, however the K5 variants do leave a decent chunk of cash left for glass or beer or even a glass and beer
Regards
Stu
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Posted 10/12/2013 - 20:37
(below)This is what it flashes with the older lenses on it OR if I take the lens with the "A ring" off of "A", and put it on another aperture setting (won't shoot with this blinking)...Maybe I should move this thread now?
This is what it does with the newer lens, having the apature set on "A", and then adjusting the aperture to whatever want by using the Av button on the front of the camera. I shoot in M.
Here's the front..
I guess maybe I should move this thread huh?=p
thanks for all the help..I'm downloading a manual now. Everyone I've always talked to (camera shops and school) has no clue how to work a pentax..
SO! will all of the "new" lenses that fit my ZX-30 work without a problem on a K3?
This is what it does with the newer lens, having the apature set on "A", and then adjusting the aperture to whatever want by using the Av button on the front of the camera. I shoot in M.
Here's the front..
I guess maybe I should move this thread huh?=p
thanks for all the help..I'm downloading a manual now. Everyone I've always talked to (camera shops and school) has no clue how to work a pentax..
SO! will all of the "new" lenses that fit my ZX-30 work without a problem on a K3?
Last Edited by aadixon on 10/12/2013 - 21:08
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Posted 10/12/2013 - 20:49
I'm loving my K3 but there are plenty who see snakes in the grass.
To me it's better in every way than my K5IIs with no downsides at all.
Noise when it does come is very granular and regular, very like film but without the colour blotching, I got from my K5 st ISO 3200 and above, cleans up better too. I like you don"t really photograph black cats in coal cellars at night, If I did, I'd go out and buy a Nikon Df tomorrow...
Cheers Jules...
My viewfinder is 576,000,000 pixels.
My other viewfinder is 5.76,000,000.
www.exaggeratedperspectives.com
To me it's better in every way than my K5IIs with no downsides at all.
Noise when it does come is very granular and regular, very like film but without the colour blotching, I got from my K5 st ISO 3200 and above, cleans up better too. I like you don"t really photograph black cats in coal cellars at night, If I did, I'd go out and buy a Nikon Df tomorrow...
Cheers Jules...
My viewfinder is 576,000,000 pixels.
My other viewfinder is 5.76,000,000.
www.exaggeratedperspectives.com
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Posted 10/12/2013 - 21:25
aadixon wrote:
(below)This is what it flashes with the older lenses on it OR if I take the lens with the "A ring" off of "A", and put it on another aperture setting (won't shoot with this blinking)
(below)This is what it flashes with the older lenses on it OR if I take the lens with the "A ring" off of "A", and put it on another aperture setting (won't shoot with this blinking)
You need to put the dial on M (manual.) When the aperture isn't on A, the lens in effect becomes a non auto lens like the M series that has no electronic communication (allows backwards compatibility with older lenses, and allows newer lenses to be used on older bodies.) Hope that helps!
John K
Last Edited by JAK on 10/12/2013 - 21:26
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So, I'm heavily considering getting the Pentax K3. I've looked at many reviews/comparison charts, and it sounds like an amazing camera. Its important that the K3 is water resistant, and has what I consider to be a crazy ISO limit,etc. to me.
What's everyone's thoughts?
-Aaron