K5 performance
Posted 05/11/2013 - 21:23
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Its not unusual I'm sure for slight disappointment at the very first images from a new camera, and new system as well. So don't be worried, its most likely just a case of letting a few things gel through a bit more use and experience.
I like playing with settings and reading the manual, so that would be my first recomendation. If you're taking JPEGs then go straight to the Custom Image Settings (right hand button on the four-way controller) and try out shots with the different presets, and look at the fine tuning options such as contrast, saturation, sharpness. Take a few shots of the same thing at different settings to get a feel for each 'look'.
But if you're not happy with any particular images please post them here so we can see - you're more likely to find a specific solution that way.
Finally, if you have been taking RAW images, it is normal for these to appear rather muted and lacking in 'sparkle' initially - they need processing to bring out the full quality.
I like playing with settings and reading the manual, so that would be my first recomendation. If you're taking JPEGs then go straight to the Custom Image Settings (right hand button on the four-way controller) and try out shots with the different presets, and look at the fine tuning options such as contrast, saturation, sharpness. Take a few shots of the same thing at different settings to get a feel for each 'look'.
But if you're not happy with any particular images please post them here so we can see - you're more likely to find a specific solution that way.
Finally, if you have been taking RAW images, it is normal for these to appear rather muted and lacking in 'sparkle' initially - they need processing to bring out the full quality.
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Posted 05/11/2013 - 21:28
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Hi and welcome to the the world of Pentax. Sorry to hear you are disappointed so far. Could I ask in what way you are disappointed and also how you have set your camera up, ie which setting are you using; auto, AV, P etc?
If you have any examples you can upload them to the forum so we can see and hopefully help.
Regards,
John K
If you have any examples you can upload them to the forum so we can see and hopefully help.
Regards,
John K
John K
Posted 05/11/2013 - 21:33
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I'm not surprised. Despite all the praise for the camera, I always find images from mine to be very flat, two dimensional, lifeless and "digital". There's obviously lots of detail, excellent low light performance and a wonderfully wide dynamic range. And yet...
Afetr a couple of weeks abroad with the K5, I can't wait to get back home to my elderly K10 which, for me at least, produces images of a very different quality.
I'm sure the fault lies with me and the way I use and set up the camera, as others seem to do very well with it, as I am sure will you, when you get used to it.
Afetr a couple of weeks abroad with the K5, I can't wait to get back home to my elderly K10 which, for me at least, produces images of a very different quality.
I'm sure the fault lies with me and the way I use and set up the camera, as others seem to do very well with it, as I am sure will you, when you get used to it.
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Andrew
"These places mean something and it's the job of a photographer to figure-out what the hell it is."
Robert Adams
"The camera doesn't make a bit of difference. All of them can record what you are seeing. But, you have to SEE."
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Posted 05/11/2013 - 21:36
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bwlchmawr wrote:
I'm not surprised. Despite all the praise for the camera, I always find images from mine to be very flat, two dimensional, lifeless and "digital". There's obviously lots of detail, excellent low light performance and a wonderfully wide dynamic range. And yet...
Afetr a couple of weeks abroad with the K5, I can't wait to get back home to my elderly K10 which, for me at least, produces images of a very different quality.
I'm sure the fault lies with me and the way I use and set up the camera, as others seem to do very well with it, as I am sure will you, when you get used to it.
I'm not surprised. Despite all the praise for the camera, I always find images from mine to be very flat, two dimensional, lifeless and "digital". There's obviously lots of detail, excellent low light performance and a wonderfully wide dynamic range. And yet...
Afetr a couple of weeks abroad with the K5, I can't wait to get back home to my elderly K10 which, for me at least, produces images of a very different quality.
I'm sure the fault lies with me and the way I use and set up the camera, as others seem to do very well with it, as I am sure will you, when you get used to it.
Posted 05/11/2013 - 21:43
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Great reply's guys, I have posted several shots on the gallery recently, initially some were taken with a Tamron 70-300 which I feel are soft and consequently have now sold and looking to replace.
My main comparison is that I tend to carry around with me a Fuji 100x and tend to duplicate shots, these images tend to have more punch and saturation.
I really love the handling of the K5 and do not believe there are many other cameras currently that have the same build or handling quality, however I am at a cross road as whether to continue with the marquee or try alternatives
My main comparison is that I tend to carry around with me a Fuji 100x and tend to duplicate shots, these images tend to have more punch and saturation.
I really love the handling of the K5 and do not believe there are many other cameras currently that have the same build or handling quality, however I am at a cross road as whether to continue with the marquee or try alternatives
Posted 05/11/2013 - 21:50
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You can upload images right into this thread if you wish. If you do we can discuss them and hopefully sort out the problem.
John K
John K
John K
Posted 05/11/2013 - 21:50
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Looking at your gallery portraits there, I can't see any one consistent issue apart from slight softness maybe - this appears to be the lens from the look of it. Colours and other IQ matters it is difficult to assess based on the subject matter.
Why not put up here a specific image and give details of what you are feeling about it so that you can get other viewpoints on it?
Why not put up here a specific image and give details of what you are feeling about it so that you can get other viewpoints on it?
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Posted 05/11/2013 - 21:55
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I agree, the gallery images look just fine. There's nothing drastically wrong. Nothing that a tweak in Photoshop or whatever program you use wouldn't sort out. You could probably teach us a thing or two!
If you think they're soft (not that they look it) a bit of sharpening should sort that out. Some cameras add that in camera, as can the K-5 but you'd need to turn the sharpness up. Most DSLRs presume you'll work on the image after you've taken it, not just Pentax.
John K
If you think they're soft (not that they look it) a bit of sharpening should sort that out. Some cameras add that in camera, as can the K-5 but you'd need to turn the sharpness up. Most DSLRs presume you'll work on the image after you've taken it, not just Pentax.
John K
John K
Posted 05/11/2013 - 21:59 - Helpful Comment
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I can't see much to complain about in your gallery shots. It could be that your NEX was set up to produce punchy vibrant jpegs. You can do the same on the K5, but the default setting might be more muted. As suggested try some of the Custom Image settings e.g. 'vibrant' and see what happens. You can also adjust these settings yourself, in camera, adjusting colour contrast and sharpness to taste.
Replacing the Tamron 70-300? Think about the Pentax DA55-300. Or for less range but even better results, the DA50-135mm.
Replacing the Tamron 70-300? Think about the Pentax DA55-300. Or for less range but even better results, the DA50-135mm.
Posted 05/11/2013 - 22:02
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Going to stick with the K5 and adopt some of the suggestions, just ordered Lightroom 5 and seeking out either a 200 or 300 range telephoto.
Watching closely the classified adds on the forum, however cannot understand some of the Jargon (Bump Pm ? ) or how to go about purchasing.
Think the site is great
Watching closely the classified adds on the forum, however cannot understand some of the Jargon (Bump Pm ? ) or how to go about purchasing.
Think the site is great
Posted 05/11/2013 - 22:07 - Helpful Comment
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It has its moments
Bump means nothing has been added to a thread, so its disappearing down to the bottom of the page and the 'OP' (Original Poster) wants it 'bumped' back to the top again - usually to flag up a classified sale again.
'PM' ia Private Message.
Glad you're going to stick with the DSLR - this type of camera is highly adaptable and the Specs and features of your camera are superb. You'll get plenty of help here if needed.
Bump means nothing has been added to a thread, so its disappearing down to the bottom of the page and the 'OP' (Original Poster) wants it 'bumped' back to the top again - usually to flag up a classified sale again.
'PM' ia Private Message.
Glad you're going to stick with the DSLR - this type of camera is highly adaptable and the Specs and features of your camera are superb. You'll get plenty of help here if needed.
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Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver
Posted 05/11/2013 - 22:14
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I came from the GX10 (KD10 equivalent) to the K5 and I too thought that the K5 images didn't appear to have the same punch as the GX10 images.
It's not that the KD10 or GX10 could produce better images, it came down to the fact that the out-of-box settings are different for each. Within the menu of the K5 are a whole raft of image settings that will allow you to tweak according to what you perceive to be most pleasing to your tastes.
As McGregNi advises above, you need to experiment. You can also use the PDCU software to get instant previews of how the different options; natural, bright, landscape, portrait etc will appear.
It's not that the KD10 or GX10 could produce better images, it came down to the fact that the out-of-box settings are different for each. Within the menu of the K5 are a whole raft of image settings that will allow you to tweak according to what you perceive to be most pleasing to your tastes.
As McGregNi advises above, you need to experiment. You can also use the PDCU software to get instant previews of how the different options; natural, bright, landscape, portrait etc will appear.
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Posted 05/11/2013 - 22:35
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What??? ... my post above has gone a horrible green, looks so unatural. What can it mean? .... I'll have to check my settings
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Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver
Pentax K7 with BG-4 Grip / Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC / DA18-55mm f3.5-5.6 AL WR / SMC A28mm f2.8 / D FA 28-105mm / SMC F35-70 f3.5-4.5 / SMC A50mm f1.7 / Tamron AF70-300mm f4-5.6 Di LD macro / SMC M75-150mm f4.0 / Tamron Adaptall (CT-135) 135mm f2.8 / Asahi Takumar-A 2X tele-converter / Pentax AF-540FGZ (I & II) Flashes / Cactus RF60/X Flashes & V6/V6II Transceiver
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The K5 appears on paper as a complete photographers camera this is what influenced me to depart from the Sony NEx system, however I am slightly disappointed with the results to date, any suggestions on default settings to try and restore my confidence