How many of you have a second body?


royd63uk

Link Posted 29/05/2017 - 09:43
I have the QS-1 as back up
regards
Roy

Pentax K3 gripped,and some lenses
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Mike-P

Link Posted 29/05/2017 - 13:39
Last thing I read on another forum Chris ( the OP ) had bought a Sony, sold that, bought a Fuji and was ( or already had ) sold the K1.

He actually makes Jules look a complete novice when it comes to changing systems.

On a serious note though it must be a terrible feeling knowing that no matter how much money you throw at a hobby you will never truly be happy with what your equipment produces even if you tell yourself you are.
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RobL

Link Posted 29/05/2017 - 13:57
The only reason I would consider changing systems is the lens range option, not the bodies necessarily. But then would I really spend the sort of money a Zeiss or Canon supertelephoto demand? Time for a reality check. The 'grass is greener' syndrome has to be frustration with one's own limitations rather than the equipment's. I saw a report recently that half the K1 sales were to purchasers who hadn't previously used Pentax, but no idea how that could be concluded; I guess they look at trade-ins but many Pentax users who bought a K1 would add it to their existing system, not replace the body so would they count as new Pentax purchases?

johnriley

Link Posted 29/05/2017 - 15:15
I counted up all the available lenses recently and there are currently over 40 Pentax lenses in the market. That's the same as there were in the heyday of the ME Super.

Looking at other marques, yes, Nikon and Canon have more, but unless we have a really specialist need for something then it's all academic. The exotic lenses are out of my price range anyway.

The lenses that I might be tempted by, including interesting ones from Irix and Samyang, are within range and available in Pentax fit.
Best regards, John

Mike-P

Link Posted 29/05/2017 - 16:01
I originally bought a Canon purely for the MPE-65mm but have since upgraded the body and added a few lenses that I can't get in Pentax mount.
I must admit that as a tech junkie every major marque has a body I would love to own but in the end I know it would cost me a ruddy fortune to try all of them so I'm not going to bother 😄

I have however held back from the K1 as I'm waiting to see what Canon has to offer with the 6D II as my EF mount lenses are better suited to FF than my Pentax.
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Last Edited by Mike-P on 29/05/2017 - 16:04

RobL

Link Posted 29/05/2017 - 19:52
Carrying on the lens theme, I read an interesting point that lenses are 'keepers' and retain their value for much longer than camera bodies which depreciate with shutter count and age, so systems should be selected on what lenses will most suit. However I am sure most of us pick the camera first and as long as there is a reasonable lens catalogue go from there. A big sell for me is the extensive WR range including flash plus the universal SR which, being body rather than lens based, fits neatly into the first point that every time the body is upgraded then so is the SR capability.

DaveKitson

Link Posted 29/05/2017 - 22:47
I keep 2 bodies so that in the event of problems with one body, I have a backup.

I have operated a "one in" "one out" policy with cameras, *istD+K10, K10 +K20, K20+K5, K5+K3 and now K3+K1. The *istD went to my to my grandson, the others were part-exchanged toward the new camera. Of the DSLRs I have owned, I was most comfortable with the K5 (for no logical reason that I can fathom).

I did think that current K3+K1 combination might be used differently, using the K3 with long lenses when I wanted more reach, but in fact I always find myself picking up the K1, leaving the K3 as insurance.

dave k
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Hardgravity

Link Posted 30/05/2017 - 09:30
I've only had one DSLR die on me, that's my K5, which had been showing signs for a couple of months.

Replaced that with a K3-II, much nicer but still not as nice image wise as my old K110 and K200, both of which get regular use out and about. The K200 acts as my travel back up body, it takes AA batteries so will work anywhere!

Just don't get me going on film bodies(I use my ME and MX form time to time!) somebody thinks I have too many...

http://www.hardgravity.co.uk/Camera%20start/p1.htm


Cheers, HG

K110+DA40, K200+DA35, K5+Tammy 18-250, a bag of lenses, bodies and other bits.

Mustn't forget the Zenits, or folders, or...

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LawrenceKH

Link Posted 30/05/2017 - 14:49
Hardgravity wrote:
I've only had one DSLR die on me, that's my K5, which had been showing signs for a couple of months.

Replaced that with a K3-II, much nicer but still not as nice image wise as my old K110 and K200, both of which get regular use out and about. The K200 acts as my travel back up body, it takes AA batteries so will work anywhere!

Just don't get me going on film bodies(I use my ME and MX form time to time!) somebody thinks I have too many...

http://www.hardgravity.co.uk/Camera%20start/p1.htm


Hardgravity,

I checked your web site to see if it described why your K-5 had failed -- you hadn't described that but you did refer to your Pentax collection.

In my case, I might be said to have "collected" Olympus digital cameras in that I had most of them. Then when Olympus quit making them I bought a used K-20D on line from a store that had several. The AF wasn't functioning properly so I sent it back. The next one they sent me had no serial number but worked fine.

My next Pentax was a K7, purchased from a Canadian outfit with less of a warranty than if I had bought it in the US. Within days of when the warranty ran out; so did the K7. The AF went out on that one as well. I could use it with manual focus and did so for a short while. Deciding I was going to stick with Pentax from that time forward I bought a new K5 and sent my K7 to the shop to be fixed.

For a while the K5 was my favorite camera -- the best camera I'd ever owned, but since I bought a K5iis, a K3 and the a K3ii I gave my K5 to my son. I had previously given him the K20D followed by the K7. Each time he would say the camera was the best he had owned and quit using the previous one.

Considering my problems buying used Olympus cameras and then the used K-20D and the slightly questionable K-7, my own conclusion has been to stay away (as much as possible) from used cameras. I have never had a problem with any of my Pentax cameras from the K5 forward.

The last used camera I bought was an Olympus E5. The seller said it was in "near new" condition. Indeed when I got it I had to agree. It looked nearly new. But when I checked the shutter count it had about 30,000 clicks on it. I decided not to quibble with him but to keep the camera. He could argue that for a camera built as well as the E5, 30,000 clicks on this camera predicted to provide 200,000 was "nearly" new. I wouldn't be putting a huge number of shutter actuations on it and it did look very good so okay, I had wanted the E-5 before I totally left Olympus and I had one. I also had one more reason never to buy another used camera.

Of course I had been sticking with the Pentax "flagship" APS/C cameras. Recently, hearing good things about the second tier cameras, I bought a K-S1. It functions properly but it doesn't have two dials and I shoot in manual mode & so need them. I bought the K-S2 which I thought had a problem but it turned out a couple of lenses were faulty -- after I sent the K-S2 back. More recently I bought a K-70. I've tried it with several different lenses and it has worked well. However, after my last outing with the K-70 and 16-85mm lens I've decided that I prefer the solidity of the top tier cameras; so I'm expecting to use the K-70 less in the future.

I had been using the K3ii since I got it, but rather than go strictly back to it after setting the K-70 on the shelf, I'll probably switch off with the K-3 and K-5iis -- and maybe my "near-new" E-5 as well. I'm not sorry I bought the K-70, but just don't think it has the hiking-camera sturdiness that these others have.

Lawrence

DaveKitson

Link Posted 02/06/2017 - 20:13
I knew I shouldn't have responded to this thread....

Took my K1 to Johnsons for a warranty repair today.. Powers up in LV and will not exit from LV.

So it looks as though my backup K3 will go on holiday with me. Not the worst problem in the world, tho' I have to rethink which lenses to take now.

dave k
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LawrenceKH

Link Posted 02/06/2017 - 21:34
DaveKitson wrote:
I knew I shouldn't have responded to this thread....

Took my K1 to Johnsons for a warranty repair today.. Powers up in LV and will not exit from LV.

So it looks as though my backup K3 will go on holiday with me. Not the worst problem in the world, tho' I have to rethink which lenses to take now.

dave k

Risking failure to say it, I haven't had a camera fail on me in ages, but I did put my K-70 away the other day and used the K3 on my last hike. Living in one of the less populated regions of California I hike (and take photos) in a somewhat rugged area and got to a point where I felt I was risking damage to the fragile-seeming K-70.

As Mr. Riley said, Pentax has a lot of lenses. I have quite a few myself and intended to take perhaps the 15mm and 70mm primes on the hike, but then checking the weather report and reading that "drizzle" was a possibility I went with the 18-135mm.

I had been checking the K-70 in higher ISO ranges than I used with my other cameras. On the last K-70 outing I left it at ISO 1600 for the entire outing. Previously at ISO 3200 I got a slight bit of noise on a couple of shots, but (I thought) if I can leave a camera at ISO 1600 in the early morning on a dark drizzly day then I am doing pretty good. So on my first hike in a long time with the K3 I left it at 1600 to see how it would compare. The days and lighting were perhaps slightly worse than the K-70 outing, and I ended up thinking that the K3 did better.

Here is the gallery for the hike yesterday: https://lawrencehelm.smugmug.com/RiverPhotography/Jun-2017/

A caveat: The day was so overcast with haze that I was afraid none of the shots were going to be keepers. The shots when I looked at them in Light Room looked under-exposed but I was able to bring out the details in Lightroom without introducing any noise. I had to do the same thing with the K-70 shots on such days, but yesterday was worse than any I'd used the K-70 on. I was using the Lightroom 6 editor and did little more than increase the contrast and darken the shots a bit. All of the detail must have been in the raw file, and while I don't understand how that works, I'll take it.

This was my favorite shot: https://lawrencehelm.smugmug.com/RiverPhotography/Jun-2017/i-2J27Z3d/A

Were all of these shots completely natural and exactly what I saw on the hike? I don't know. I am old and have weak eyes -- but close enough.

Lawrence

jeallen01

Link Posted 02/06/2017 - 21:45
In line with others, I have kept most of my older DSLRs - except the original GX-10 - for various reasons, notably:
- As was said, something like a K-5 has now, unfortunately, relatively little resale value - and it is the one that works best with the 150-500 HSM OS (as explained elsewhere)!
- the K-30 was bought to be my walkabout and travel body because it is smaller and lighter than the rest but still works with all the lenses I have.
-- the K-3 (which was fully serviced a couple of years ago, and is working well!) is the enigma now that I have the K-3 II because it has somewhat better AF (which is important for some of what I want to shoot) and some other functions such as more up-to-date f/w (which also allows use of the latest Pentax lenses without screw--drive) - so do I keep it or sell it whilst it does have a reasonable resale value?

That's a summary of how I view the situation, and the current issues - others may differ
K-3 II, K-3 and K-30 (now running the Hacked K-50 f/w, so it thinks it is one of those ), & some Sigma and Pentax lenses (and a lot of old 35mm gear!) - and now a K-70 from SRS
Last Edited by jeallen01 on 02/06/2017 - 21:50

steloz

Link Posted 04/06/2017 - 15:25
I have a K3 backed up with K20d
K-3. K20D, Pentax 18-55mm AL II, Pentax DA 16-45 Pentax FA 50 F1.4, Pentax 18-135 wr, Pentax-AF 80-200, Pentax DA 55-300, Metz 48

royd63uk

Link Posted 04/06/2017 - 17:33
LawrenceKH wrote:


Were all of these shots completely natural and exactly what I saw on the hike? I don't know. I am old and have weak eyes -- but close enough.

Lawrence

How on earth did those shopping trolleys get there
regards
Roy

Pentax K3 gripped,and some lenses
https://www.flickr.com/photos/pentaxroy/

my pbase gallery

LawrenceKH

Link Posted 04/06/2017 - 18:18
royd63uk wrote:
LawrenceKH wrote:


Were all of these shots completely natural and exactly what I saw on the hike? I don't know. I am old and have weak eyes -- but close enough.

Lawrence

How on earth did those shopping trolleys get there

It wouldn't have been easy. Perhaps two or three miles south of this point is a Stater Brothers grocery store. They don't have shopping trolley guards so anyone can push one away. There are no sidewalks so the Troll (my non-political correct term for these people some of which liver under bridges) would have to push his trolley on the paved road until he gets to the river. He probably pushes it along the south levee until he gets to a spot where he wants to get down into the river bottom. There is no easy way to get a cart down as far as I can recall. He would have to horse it down as he steps on large rocks to make his way down. Maybe he empties his cart first, takes it down to the bottom and then goes back up after the shopping bags. I've never seen this done, but I have seen empty carts on the south levee where the troll grabbed his bags of groceries and left the cart behind.

There are places where homeless people push shopping carts about with all their worldly possessions, but I haven't seen any such at the river. and it wouldn't be easy to push a cart many places on the river bottom because of the soft sand.

Lawrence
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