Cooling problems

PeteWelshPhotography
Posted 24/07/2008 - 23:08 Link
Hi All,

I have a Pentax K10d and various lenses.. When I take a photograph of a scene with a lot of green in I tend to have to "cool" it down in photoshop as they always seem to have a yellow tint to it... This happens with both RAW and JPG I have tried setting the white balance on Auto/daylight and cloudy but none seem to sort the problem The White balance seems fine to me when I take a photo of anything else... So was Looking for suggestions as to what I can do to stop this.. I guess there is something in a menu somewhere but I can't find it

I am going to try to attach two photos to this post to show the difference The first image does not seem to need "cooling"
Comment Image

http://www.petewelsh-photography.co.uk/petes/DartmoorRider.jpg

This next image has a lot more green in and I have the problem ... I know it is over exposed probably not in focus but that is nothing to do with the problem ..
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http://www.petewelsh-photography.co.uk/petes/IMGP7491%20093-qpr.jpg
Pentax K7 and K5 and several black tubey things with magnifying glass in that twist around and move in and out - to be honest I am not sure exactly what I have. Will list the proper names one day..
Edited by PeteWelshPhotography: 24/07/2008 - 23:12
PeteWelshPhotography
Posted 24/07/2008 - 23:11 Link
I couldnt get the images up so have pasted the links
Pentax K7 and K5 and several black tubey things with magnifying glass in that twist around and move in and out - to be honest I am not sure exactly what I have. Will list the proper names one day..
George Lazarette
Posted 25/07/2008 - 00:04 Link
The links are not much of an improvement:

"Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /petes/IMGP7491 093-qpr.jpg on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request."

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johnriley
Posted 25/07/2008 - 00:14 - Helpful Comment Link
This is IMO down to exposure. In the first image there is a nice even tone balance that will not upset metering systems and a good result is obtained.

In the second image the background is considerably brighter than the foreground and is over-exposed. This causes poor colour and with this lighting imbalance the only cure would be to light the butterfly with fill-in flash.

If shooting JPEG, setting Daylight or Cloudy as the white balance will give better results than AWB, or at least more interesting results!

Hope that helps!
Best regards, John
PeteWelshPhotography
Posted 25/07/2008 - 00:36 Link
johnriley wrote:
This is IMO down to exposure. In the first image there is a nice even tone balance that will not upset metering systems and a good result is obtained.

In the second image the background is considerably brighter than the foreground and is over-exposed. This causes poor colour and with this lighting imbalance the only cure would be to light the butterfly with fill-in flash.

If shooting JPEG, setting Daylight or Cloudy as the white balance will give better results than AWB, or at least more interesting results!

Hope that helps!
Thanks John.. I guess you managed to see the images then .. Not sure why George had a problem..
I have had a look at a few other pictures with the problem and I see what you mean.. I will have a go next time i am in this lighting situation ...

Thank you for your help
Pentax K7 and K5 and several black tubey things with magnifying glass in that twist around and move in and out - to be honest I am not sure exactly what I have. Will list the proper names one day..
Mannesty
Posted 25/07/2008 - 01:10 Link
I get

Forbidden
You don't have permission to access /petes/DartmoorRider.jpg on this server.

Additionally, a 404 Not Found error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.
Apache/1.3.37 Server at www.petewelsh-photography.co.uk Port 80
Peter E Smith - flickr Photostream
johnriley
Posted 25/07/2008 - 07:51 Link
Try refreshing the page. I can see the images, properly displayed.

Which browser are you using?
Best regards, John
ChrisA
Posted 25/07/2008 - 08:30 Link
johnriley wrote:
Try refreshing the page. I can see the images, properly displayed.

Which browser are you using?
I can't see them either, refreshed or otherwise.

I've tried with IE6, Firefox 3, Opera 9.50 beta and Opera 9.51, all with the same error message as others have reported.
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Prieni
Posted 25/07/2008 - 08:38 Link
No luck here either, Firefox 2. Same error messages.
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Mongoose
Posted 25/07/2008 - 08:49 Link
forbidden here too, Firefox 2.

On another note, how come Johns first post on this thread is on a green background?
you don't have to be mad to post here



but it does help
ChrisA
Posted 25/07/2008 - 08:54 Link
Mongoose wrote:
On another note, how come Johns first post on this thread is on a green background?
It's what posts marked as helpful by the OP look like.
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Gwyn
Posted 25/07/2008 - 08:55 Link
I can't see them either, also using Firefox 2.
John's message is green because Pete has commended it as helpful.
Mongoose
Posted 25/07/2008 - 08:56 Link
ChrisA wrote:
Mongoose wrote:
On another note, how come Johns first post on this thread is on a green background?
It's what posts marked as helpful by the OP look like.
interesting feature. I might have picked a less lurid colour, but it certainly makes them stand out.
you don't have to be mad to post here



but it does help
Gwyn
Posted 25/07/2008 - 08:58 - Helpful Comment Link
OK I have seen the photos - I went to http://www.petewelsh-photography.co.uk/petes and from there (it is a root directory) I could open the photos. I would say that John is spot on in his diagnosis.
ChrisA
Posted 25/07/2008 - 09:04 Link
Gwyn wrote:
OK I have seen the photos - I went to http://www.petewelsh-photography.co.uk/petes and from there (it is a root directory) I could open the photos. I would say that John is spot on in his diagnosis.
How strange. Now that I've visited the photos successfully using your method, the original links work for me too.
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Edit: though if I restart the browser and refresh the page, I'm back to the original error. Don't understand that
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Edited by ChrisA: 25/07/2008 - 09:07

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