Bad spelin'
Posted 22/03/2009 - 00:38
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Hmmm, it might depend on the language maybe. I just don't know.
Looked the web and found this. I'm not saying you're wrong, since I don't know for sure what's right or not but this what I though was right though.
OXFORD Dictionary
Looked the web and found this. I'm not saying you're wrong, since I don't know for sure what's right or not but this what I though was right though.
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A double negative is the nonstandard usage of two negatives used in the same sentence so that they cancel each other and create a positive. In Shakespeare's day, double negatives were considered emphatic, but today, they are considered grammar mistakes.
Quoted from LEOA double negative is the nonstandard usage of two negatives used in the same sentence so that they cancel each other and create a positive. In Shakespeare's day, double negatives were considered emphatic, but today, they are considered grammar mistakes.
OXFORD Dictionary
Posted 22/03/2009 - 00:48
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Anvh wrote:
Hmmm, it might depend on the language maybe. I just don't know.
Looked the web and found this. I'm not saying you're wrong, since I don't know for sure what's right or not but this what I though was right though.
The point is that in a double negative the two negatives cancel (or we might even say negate ) each other and so make a positive, as in 'I haven't got no apples'. That didn't happen in the sentence that was questioned.
Hmmm, it might depend on the language maybe. I just don't know.
Looked the web and found this. I'm not saying you're wrong, since I don't know for sure what's right or not but this what I though was right though.
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A double negative is the nonstandard usage of two negatives used in the same sentence so that they cancel each other and create a positive. In Shakespeare's day, double negatives were considered emphatic, but today, they are considered grammar mistakes.
A double negative is the nonstandard usage of two negatives used in the same sentence so that they cancel each other and create a positive. In Shakespeare's day, double negatives were considered emphatic, but today, they are considered grammar mistakes.
Posted 22/03/2009 - 01:04
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wasleys wrote:
...in a double negative the two negatives cancel (or we might even say negate ) each other and so make a positive... That didn't happen in the sentence that was questioned.
Yes it did....in a double negative the two negatives cancel (or we might even say negate ) each other and so make a positive... That didn't happen in the sentence that was questioned.
mowog wrote:
I'm not talking about people who's first language is not English.
Take the 'not's out, and you have:I'm not talking about people who's first language is not English.
"I'm talking about people who's first language is English."
Which means the same thing.
Dan
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Posted 22/03/2009 - 09:55
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Ah isn't English grand. At least in Dutch you only have to worry about gender and d or t at the end of a verb .
Stefan, there are others who post here who have Dyslexia, Don in Winnipeg is one, but there are others.
As I said as long as I can understand what a poster is getting at I'll read their post. Sometimes though it is not easy due to lack of punctuation, poor grammar and bad spelling.
I'm surprised George hasn't joined in this. Where is he :
Stefan, there are others who post here who have Dyslexia, Don in Winnipeg is one, but there are others.
As I said as long as I can understand what a poster is getting at I'll read their post. Sometimes though it is not easy due to lack of punctuation, poor grammar and bad spelling.
I'm surprised George hasn't joined in this. Where is he :
Posted 22/03/2009 - 10:18
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A mis-spelled word which is obviously a typing error does not bother me at all. However, I am annoyed when the whole post seems to indicate that the poster just doesn't care.
Some people don't use punctuation at all - no full stops, no Capital letters. That is annoying, and often takes a lot of guesswork to figure out what the poster is saying.
We should all make an effort to use proper and correct language, out of respect to our fellow members.
Some people don't use punctuation at all - no full stops, no Capital letters. That is annoying, and often takes a lot of guesswork to figure out what the poster is saying.
We should all make an effort to use proper and correct language, out of respect to our fellow members.
Best regards
Terry
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Terry
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Posted 22/03/2009 - 11:23
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I don't know what is going on in other countries, but here in Québec, the government thought it would be bad for the kids self esteem to correct them all the time, so they decided if it sounded the same, it was all right.
Now they are beginning to realize they made a mistake. Kids entering university can't read or write anymore. They have to take extra classes to learn proper use of the French language so their professors can figure out what they are writing.
To make things worst, those same people in high government offices decided that kids would graduate even if they don't make the grades to avoid bruising their egos. Now, kids are graduating from college, and they can't even write their names or do simple arithmetic.
Now they are beginning to realize they made a mistake. Kids entering university can't read or write anymore. They have to take extra classes to learn proper use of the French language so their professors can figure out what they are writing.
To make things worst, those same people in high government offices decided that kids would graduate even if they don't make the grades to avoid bruising their egos. Now, kids are graduating from college, and they can't even write their names or do simple arithmetic.
Yves (another one of those crazy Canucks)
Posted 22/03/2009 - 13:12
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pentaxian450 wrote:
I don't know what is going on in other countries, but here in Québec, the government thought it would be bad for the kids self esteem to correct them all the time, so they decided if it sounded the same, it was all right.
They make the same mistake in Norway.I don't know what is going on in other countries, but here in Québec, the government thought it would be bad for the kids self esteem to correct them all the time, so they decided if it sounded the same, it was all right.
impotentspider wrote:
Poor education, lazyness or dyslexia, thats where the problem lies (or should that be lays?:blush
For dyslectic people there is an excuse, for poor education maybe some (blame the government), but for lazyness none.
Poor education, lazyness or dyslexia, thats where the problem lies (or should that be lays?:blush
Best regards
Terry
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Terry
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Posted 22/03/2009 - 13:15
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Yves, my niece managed to get a degree, while she seems only to be able to write textspeak. Whenever I get an e-mail from her I have to work out what the heck she means since vowels seem no longer to feature in her spelling, never mind punctuation. I asked my brother about this and he said the school she went to took the same view as the Québec government. Seemingly the uni she went to took the same attitude. How she ever manages to write job applications is beyond me.
She has a job btw, so either they accept textspeak or she really can write properly, just chooses not to.
I suppose I should call it txtspk too!
Edit: comment added.
She has a job btw, so either they accept textspeak or she really can write properly, just chooses not to.
I suppose I should call it txtspk too!
Edit: comment added.
Posted 22/03/2009 - 13:28
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Gwyn wrote:
Yves, my niece managed to get a degree, while she seems only to be able to write textspeak. Whenever I get an e-mail from her I have to work out what the heck she means since vowels seem no longer to feature in her spelling, never mind punctuation. I asked my brother about this and he said the school she went to took the same view as the Québec government. Seemingly the uni she went to took the same attitude. How she ever manages to write job applications is beyond me.
She has a job btw, so either they accept textspeak or she really can write properly, just chooses not to.
I suppose I should call it txtspk too!
Edit: comment added.
I'm glad to hear your niece was able to find a job, but here in Québec, I see too many young adults flipping burgers at McD. because they can't find a job due to lack of education or poor education. Makes me wonder where we're going to end up as a country.
Yves, my niece managed to get a degree, while she seems only to be able to write textspeak. Whenever I get an e-mail from her I have to work out what the heck she means since vowels seem no longer to feature in her spelling, never mind punctuation. I asked my brother about this and he said the school she went to took the same view as the Québec government. Seemingly the uni she went to took the same attitude. How she ever manages to write job applications is beyond me.
She has a job btw, so either they accept textspeak or she really can write properly, just chooses not to.
I suppose I should call it txtspk too!
Edit: comment added.
Yves (another one of those crazy Canucks)
Posted 22/03/2009 - 14:35
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but here in Québec, I see too many young adults flipping burgers at McD.
Is that because the sum total English taught is but here in Québec, I see too many young adults flipping burgers at McD.
"Do you want fries with that?"
I suffer from bad spelling, my spell checker is standing next to me right now pointing out my deficiencies.
Bless her!
Cheers, HG
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Mustn't forget the Zenits, or folders, or...
PPG entries.
Posted 22/03/2009 - 14:41
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I've just shown him how to spell check on the computer...
Standing staring over his shoulder thinking
"Well delete is not spelt like that...There isn't a deleat in the English dictionary..."
Though I regularly suffer from bouts of Blondeness in my lessons at college... Oh well...
Standing staring over his shoulder thinking
"Well delete is not spelt like that...There isn't a deleat in the English dictionary..."
Though I regularly suffer from bouts of Blondeness in my lessons at college... Oh well...
Whatever my Dad's got in the house...
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Really? Two instances of 'not' in a sentence that could be resolved without them.