Another pointless thread

flossie
Posted 10/07/2010 - 09:58 Link
gregmoll wrote:
Not being qualified to comment on your society but my first thought when reading this was, has there not been an overall improvement since my UK ancestor left the slums of Bermondesy in 1820.
Well its safe to say that Bermondesy has considerably improved since Dickens wrote about it for Oliver Twist a few years after your ancestor left - although noone would claim its the nicest part of London its not the worst.

Its also safe to say that people have been making the same comment as George about society "collapsing" since 1820 as well.
Still shooting in the dark (literally and metaphorically)...
George Lazarette
Posted 10/07/2010 - 10:14 Link
flossie wrote:
Its also safe to say that people have been making the same comment as George about society "collapsing" since 1820 as well.
One and off, yes. But it's seldom been truer than now.

At times during the last century people were boasting of the "Great Society" and "You've never had it so good". Those were times of noticeable improvement. Now we have noticeable decay.

G
Keywords: Charming, polite, and generally agreeable.
Technoblurb
Posted 10/07/2010 - 10:31 Link
I think most people speak from personal experience with regards to society, for instance I can walk down my hight street at any time, even on a Friday or Saturday night without any fear, I would not have said that of the last village I lived in, only five miles away. After saying that life is becoming very cheep in UK society, yesterday I heard a story about a man who sustained a fatal head injure after arguing about the garden fence with a neighbour. I have been reeding a book called Steel Bonnets, it is about the "border reivers", it is a history of Northumberland during a very violent period. The reivers, robbed & burned whole sections of the English / Scottish border villages using loose alliances with clans even changing nationality when if it was convenient. These times are now romanticism as part of our past with local "characters" not doubt villains at the time recounted in song.
Pentaxophile
Posted 10/07/2010 - 10:46 Link
Well the signs are that under the new government the decay is really going to kick in over the next 5 years. Already they've cancelled Labour's progressive school building scheme - leaving schools and communities in the lurch, not to mention thousands of jobs on the line. I'm a bit concerned about where we're going.
johnriley
Posted 10/07/2010 - 13:26 Link
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has there not been an overall improvement since my UK ancestor left the slums of Bermondesy in 1820.
Yes, there has, for the percentage above a certain level. For those who fall below the line life can be as desperate as you could imagine, or maybe more than you could imagine.

I have met people who literally have nothing, and that was an eye-opener to me in what we think of as a civilised society.
Best regards, John
George Lazarette
Posted 10/07/2010 - 13:43 Link
Pentaxophile wrote:
Well the signs are that under the new government the decay is really going to kick in over the next 5 years. Already they've cancelled Labour's progressive school building scheme - leaving schools and communities in the lurch, not to mention thousands of jobs on the line. I'm a bit concerned about where we're going.
As should we all be. But let's hope the lesson is learned. Labour will ALWAYS wreck the economy. It's an immutable law.

G
Keywords: Charming, polite, and generally agreeable.
Gwyn
Posted 10/07/2010 - 13:53 Link
The sun hasn't stopped shining here. 35C here yesterday, slightly cooler today at 31 right now, no significant rain for along time. Smoking bans in all the woods.
Thunderstorms and potential flooding forecast for this evening, but not enough rain to actually make a difference.
I am not complaining, but a little cooler would be nicer.
flossie
Posted 10/07/2010 - 15:03 Link
We have just changed the handles on our windows. So can now open all of them for the first time in years - just in time for a heatwave and it being hotter outside than inside. Doh!
Still shooting in the dark (literally and metaphorically)...
Anvh
Posted 10/07/2010 - 17:35 Link
They are pretty good, I don't like Lady Gaga but this funny link
Stefan
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cedricd
Posted 11/07/2010 - 17:58 Link
Well it`s nearly the end of another fine July weekend! I would like to say a big thankyou to the local supermarket for a fine selection of ice cream. Mrs Cedrics fish have reproduced and we have scores of the little creatures doing their best not to be eaten by mum and dad and three other adults. I can almost here the words "can we have a bigger pond." Likewise I can feel torn back muscles already. Mrs Grace went off to work early in the Spit this morning and last night a DC3 trolled across me airspace. makes a change from the punters stacking up for Stanstead.

Cedric
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Edited by cedricd: 11/07/2010 - 17:59
TOZZA27
Posted 11/07/2010 - 18:15 Link
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Mrs.Grace got anything like this Cedric ? We had to let her go a couple of years ago after I stopped commuting to the day job !

Lovely machine - rebuilt over 5 years and very reliable and great fun.

Tony
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I am now on Flickr which is nice !
cedricd
Posted 11/07/2010 - 18:34 Link
Wow Tony, what a gem. The Spit that Mrs Grace has would be a tad faster, use a touch more fuel and the engine growls like crazy. DC3 has just flown over again.

Cedric
Enjoy life
bforbes
Posted 11/07/2010 - 18:57 Link
I have just seen a piece on the news about the Battle of Britain. It showed, they said, the last airworthy Spitfire from the battle. In total, how many Spits still actually fly
Dangermouse
Posted 11/07/2010 - 22:51 Link
I'm given to understand that the number of airworthy Spits actually increases. The engines and airframes can be overhauled and there is a steady demand for airworthy examples.

There is a long-term plan to get another Lancaster flying - the owners of "Just Jane" are apparently gathering parts, as she's essentially capable of flight but needs the paperwork to prove it.
Matt

Shooting the Welsh Wilderness with K-m, KX, MX, ME Super and assorted lenses.
1947lcs
Posted 12/07/2010 - 09:45 Link
Its raining at last. Not a lot but its a start
K5, DAL18-55,SMC 50mm f2,DA 55-300, SCM F 35-70 and all the help I can get.

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