Advice for buying a 10 stop ND/110 filter

dinneenp
Posted 14/11/2011 - 14:15 Link
Hi,
I'd like to buy an ND filter (some great photos by Richard Hurst on this site) but don't want to shell out massive amounts of money for somehting I mightn't use that much. The 'cheapest good solution' is what I'm looking for; if it's €30 great, if it's €50 then so be it...

Can anyone tell me where I can buy one for a reasonable price (don't mind new or second hand), what brands to go for/avoid etc?

I know nothing about them expect that B&W and Hoya are good brands but not cheap.

Cheers,
Pat.
Cheers,
Pa
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Blythman
Posted 14/11/2011 - 14:21 Link
Results like this https://www.pentaxuser.com/photo/user-11709/blyth-beach-update-36823

can be got with a piece of welding glass mask for a couple of quid from ebay. Gives a horrible colour cast which needs some messing around with to be removed. But a good, cheap starting point and just the job for black and white.
Alan


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dinneenp
Posted 14/11/2011 - 14:29 Link
Thanks but I bought one of them but not happy with it.
Cheers,
Pa
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ChrisR
Posted 14/11/2011 - 14:36 Link
Have a look at:-
Premier Ink & Photographic.
Normally very competitive prices, plus excellent customer service.

Don’t know how to do the link thing, sorry.

Take care.
Chris R.

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Mannesty
Posted 14/11/2011 - 14:38 Link
I'm afraid you've tried the 'cheap' option. Now you need to look at spending serious amounts of money on a decent one.

The cheapest I've seen for a while is this one. I've no idea how good/bad it is.

The biggest problem with these 10 stop ND filters is that they are not truly neutral. All give a colour cast of varying colours in varying amounts.

Personally, I think the Lee Big Stopper is the best, but just try buying one. Nobody has them in stock due to production issues at Lee Filters.

My brother-in-law uses the B&H one and has had some very good results from it.
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Edited by Mannesty: 14/11/2011 - 14:38
Blythman
Posted 14/11/2011 - 14:41 - Helpful Comment Link
Alan


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Joe S
Posted 14/11/2011 - 16:09 Link
I have the Formatt/Hitech 10x and it is plenty cheap but does give a pronounced cast. I haven't used it much ...

Since I bought it they have introduced a "pro" version - not sure what the difference is, though. I have been rather satisfied with other filters from Formatt. Square 85mm filter is 40£

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grahamwalton
Posted 14/11/2011 - 16:22 Link
The Lightcraft Workshop Fader 2 is a neutral density filter with variable light stopping capability. You turn the filter like a polariser and it reduces the light variably, all the way up to ND400 level. The more I got into using ND filters, the more I needed in a stack, in order to reduce the light enough. Now I only take the Lightcraft filter.
They are available from Premier Ink, where I bought mine.
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Graham
Frogfish
Posted 14/11/2011 - 18:13 Link
I haven't heard good things about those variable faders Graham .. what is your experience after having tried other fixed stop filters ?

Dinneen : I have just bought a cheap Chinese ND400 filter and holder to try out before I splash out the bigger bucks for a Hoya or Lee. The Tian Ya ND400, Holder and two different adapters (49mm & 55mm) cost me around £30- 35.
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Joe S
Posted 14/11/2011 - 19:06 Link
I was just having a look at a Danish forum and the same discussion is going on. One guy gave this link to a blog - apart from that post there are some more articles concerning big stoppers. I will probably put the Formatt PRO on my wishlist for Christmas.
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Edited by Joe S: 14/11/2011 - 19:07
davesexton
Posted 14/11/2011 - 23:38 Link
I would recommend the B&W ND110. Excellent results can be achieved and its not the most expensive option. If you buy too cheap, you will end up buying twice.

Regards,

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fritzthedog
Posted 15/11/2011 - 08:43 Link
Other than bulk reduction - is there any real advantage of a 10 stop ND Vs stacking multiple NDs?
No matter how many lenses I have owned - I have always needed just one more
fritzthedog
Posted 15/11/2011 - 08:47 - Helpful Comment Link
7 day shop offer a range of mega cheap variable NDS and offer a 30 day money back guaranree if you are not happy with them.

Depending on filter size - pices from £16!!

At that price with a full refund offer - may be worth a go
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No matter how many lenses I have owned - I have always needed just one more
Edited by fritzthedog: 15/11/2011 - 08:47
JohnX
Posted 15/11/2011 - 08:48 Link
fritzthedog wrote:
Other than bulk reduction - is there any real advantage of a 10 stop ND Vs stacking multiple NDs?
Less degradation of the image AND colour cast.
fritzthedog
Posted 15/11/2011 - 08:52 Link
JohnX wrote:
fritzthedog wrote:
Other than bulk reduction - is there any real advantage of a 10 stop ND Vs stacking multiple NDs?
Less degradation of the image AND colour cast.
Thanks John - suspected that may be the case
No matter how many lenses I have owned - I have always needed just one more
Edited by fritzthedog: 15/11/2011 - 09:12

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