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Comment by ZaphodB posted on SRS Microsystems Pentax Pro Centre? at 17/10/2007 - 19:31
Chris - yes it appears to be just offices. That's where I took my gear and I assumed they could do some repairs or at least tests there, but evidently they just went off to Germany instead. Maybe I have unrealistic expectations but I would hope they would have some service capability within the UK...
By contrast when I had a problem with a Tamron lens, the importer Intro2020 (in Maidenhead) were able to fix it without shipping it off, were able to tell me what was happening when I called, and returned it with notes (in English) actually bothering to explain what they'd done.
By contrast when I had a problem with a Tamron lens, the importer Intro2020 (in Maidenhead) were able to fix it without shipping it off, were able to tell me what was happening when I called, and returned it with notes (in English) actually bothering to explain what they'd done.
Comment by ZaphodB posted on SRS Microsystems Pentax Pro Centre? at 16/10/2007 - 11:08
That would definitely be nice... it would be great to have SRS act as a middleman.
When I took a body and lens into Pentax UK for service myself, it disappeared for two months (being shipped off to Europe). I only found out what was going on when on the nth time I called Pentax UK I spoke to a girl who had just started her first day and somehow was able to produce the information which no-one else previously could ... things got even better when I finally got them back; the only accompanying paperwork consisted of a single sheet of test shots showing that the camera now worked fine with a 50mm Macro (or rather Makro since the text was in German)... presumably they didn't check the lens I actually sent them with the camera...
... I know SRS wouldn't be happy with that, so if being a Pro Centre means they offer a better "service service" than I can get from Pentax then I will be very happy
When I took a body and lens into Pentax UK for service myself, it disappeared for two months (being shipped off to Europe). I only found out what was going on when on the nth time I called Pentax UK I spoke to a girl who had just started her first day and somehow was able to produce the information which no-one else previously could ... things got even better when I finally got them back; the only accompanying paperwork consisted of a single sheet of test shots showing that the camera now worked fine with a 50mm Macro (or rather Makro since the text was in German)... presumably they didn't check the lens I actually sent them with the camera...
... I know SRS wouldn't be happy with that, so if being a Pro Centre means they offer a better "service service" than I can get from Pentax then I will be very happy
Comment by ZaphodB posted on SRS Microsystems Pentax Pro Centre? at 16/10/2007 - 02:25
Mille... well the lens being imminent aside (we only have the vague promises of "big things to come in January" from "people in the know" on this, since Pentax removed the provisional release dates from their roadmap)... I would expect (or at least hope) that it will be a fair bit less than the Canon and Nikon, given that it will be a smaller "digital-only" lens.
Comment by ZaphodB posted on Frustrated over lack of Telephotos at 15/10/2007 - 18:19
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In the second post I said that there is very little lens availability and the price is kept very high because of this. Again not an exaggeration. OK, I give you the two words "endlessly trawl"... anything else?
You finally seem to have hit the nail on the head (though from a funny angle)... It's frustrating. And it's doubly frustrating when Pentax still don't feel the need to give anyone the slightest idea of what they might do or when (I see you missed the part where I pointed out that they updated the roadmap and removed all provisional dates so that nothing is "imminent" as you said). You seem to think that waiting for lenses to pop up and gambling on buying used from abroad (with all the potential hassle this brings) is ok, and anyone not happy with that situation is not a "serious buyer". I disagree. I don't think I'm going over the top (try certain other forums if you really want to see OTT), but if you feel the need to keep trying to criticise me personally instead of bothering to read and respond to my points then so be it... you and I seem to be 'incompatible' as far as forum discussion goes
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You were exaggerating, as you have continued to do in this latest post.
You don't seem to be able to read my posts without imagining and inserting things yourself. In the first post I exaggerared nothing. Not a thing. "Virtually no long glass" was entirely accurate considering what is available. I also said that every other SLR system covers this range and Pentax does not. That's not exaggerating, it's a fact. Please give me one example of where I exaggerated in that post.You were exaggerating, as you have continued to do in this latest post.
In the second post I said that there is very little lens availability and the price is kept very high because of this. Again not an exaggeration. OK, I give you the two words "endlessly trawl"... anything else?
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If Pentax deciding not to make such lenses............
If Pentax deciding not to make such lenses............
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They haven't decided any such thing. Stop making things up.
They have decided not to make them so far, and... Remember this from your previous post...They haven't decided any such thing. Stop making things up.
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if Pentax HAD decided not to produce such lenses
Stop accusing me of making things up which you made up yourself; now that's really making things up if Pentax HAD decided not to produce such lenses
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You are certaily a comedy writer. On Ebay, you simply set up a search, then request an email to be sent to you when the item comes up. I have bought several things that way, most recently an as-new AF500FTZ flash for £36.00. There is no need to "trawl endlessly", though that does suggest seriousness.
I know it's frustrating at the moment, but I think you are going a little bit over the top.
George... I am glad I amuse you. Myself I find it quite amusing that some people think that anyone who disagrees with them must be irrational or overreacting, and seem to consistently misread posts.You are certaily a comedy writer. On Ebay, you simply set up a search, then request an email to be sent to you when the item comes up. I have bought several things that way, most recently an as-new AF500FTZ flash for £36.00. There is no need to "trawl endlessly", though that does suggest seriousness.
I know it's frustrating at the moment, but I think you are going a little bit over the top.
You finally seem to have hit the nail on the head (though from a funny angle)... It's frustrating. And it's doubly frustrating when Pentax still don't feel the need to give anyone the slightest idea of what they might do or when (I see you missed the part where I pointed out that they updated the roadmap and removed all provisional dates so that nothing is "imminent" as you said). You seem to think that waiting for lenses to pop up and gambling on buying used from abroad (with all the potential hassle this brings) is ok, and anyone not happy with that situation is not a "serious buyer". I disagree. I don't think I'm going over the top (try certain other forums if you really want to see OTT), but if you feel the need to keep trying to criticise me personally instead of bothering to read and respond to my points then so be it... you and I seem to be 'incompatible' as far as forum discussion goes
Comment by ZaphodB posted on Frustrated over lack of Telephotos at 15/10/2007 - 16:09
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Comment by ZaphodB posted on Frustrated over lack of Telephotos at 15/10/2007 - 15:28
Hello George. I am perfectly calm, and was responding to previous comments in an entirely reasonable manner. Please explain where and how in that post I was doing otherwise... otherwise I can only assume you are confusing my post with someone else's.
The roadmap actually no longer shows anything being "imminent"... unless you have a secret roadmap the rest of us don't know about, on the updated roadmap (see here), those two lenses you mention are listed simply as "Future" lenses.
Once again, I fail to see how "at once" is the same as "within several years".
If Pentax deciding not to make such lenses means it is more rather than less likely that third-parties will cover the gaps... then I guess someone forgot to tell Tamron and Sigma that.
Now I have taken the trouble to look on eBay, Ffordes, LCE branches and virtually everywhere, for quite some time now, so I have to ask... Who exactly are "serious buyers"? You mean people who are prepared to endlessly trawl forums and auctions and are happy to pay waaaay over the odds because the price is pushed up by lack of availability? Obviously the rest of us are not serious and are only comedy buyers
The roadmap actually no longer shows anything being "imminent"... unless you have a secret roadmap the rest of us don't know about, on the updated roadmap (see here), those two lenses you mention are listed simply as "Future" lenses.
Once again, I fail to see how "at once" is the same as "within several years".
If Pentax deciding not to make such lenses means it is more rather than less likely that third-parties will cover the gaps... then I guess someone forgot to tell Tamron and Sigma that.
Now I have taken the trouble to look on eBay, Ffordes, LCE branches and virtually everywhere, for quite some time now, so I have to ask... Who exactly are "serious buyers"? You mean people who are prepared to endlessly trawl forums and auctions and are happy to pay waaaay over the odds because the price is pushed up by lack of availability? Obviously the rest of us are not serious and are only comedy buyers
Comment by ZaphodB posted on Frustrated over lack of Telephotos at 15/10/2007 - 00:58
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I just wonder if people's expectations of Pentax have gone through the roof this last year or so, and if this is largely responsible for the new demand, and hence complaints when the demand isn't met.
Not in my case... I haven't had unrealistic expectations created by the K10d... I have what I consider very reasonable expectations based on the fact that Pentax have previously made telephotos, including fast ones... but they decided to stop production, and now four years after the *Ist D there is still virtually no long glass (up to 250mm for cheap zooms or only 135mm if you want it to be fast as well)... meanwhile the third-parties have given up too, with Sigma and Tamron no longer producing some of their best long glass for K-mount.I just wonder if people's expectations of Pentax have gone through the roof this last year or so, and if this is largely responsible for the new demand, and hence complaints when the demand isn't met.
Pentax obviously can't cater to everyone... but "people wanting any long glass at all" is not exactly a tiny niche. Even with their DA* zooms they decided that no-one could possibly want a fast lens that goes to the mind-blowing extreme of (gasp) 200mm, so they went for 135mm instead.
To my mind, long glass (not 1000mm, not 600mm, but in the far more reasonable area of 200 or 300mm and not a cheapy zoom) is not a highly specialised area which only CaNikon can cover. It's something that Pentax used to do very well, and it's somethign that every other SLR system does... Sony and Olympus too... but not Pentax any more.
Of course, the rumour mill has started again on another Pentax forum with "people in the know" insisting that big things are definitely coming early next year... let's pretend for a second that it's true and not yet more hype leading up to a big fat nothing... so hopefully when that happens, we'll see some long Pentax glass or at least the third-parties will come to our rescue again.
Comment by ZaphodB posted on Frustrated over lack of Telephotos at 13/10/2007 - 23:36
Peter, don't worry about that... a good Pentax lens can sell on eBay used for the same as a new one (or more in some cases )
Comment by ZaphodB posted on What lens while waiting for the 16-50 da* at 03/10/2007 - 23:07
Er... but isn't the new roadmap just the old roadmap but with the 18-250 added, and the projected release dates for the other lenses actually removed? As I remember it, the 35mm and the 17-70 were already on the last roadmap.
Comment by ZaphodB posted on New DA lenses on their way at 03/10/2007 - 18:03
- 'Priority' on cameras/lenses being serviced that were supplied by the participating dealer.
- 'Priority' on stock allocation.