Your way of thinking is right.
Finally, I bought the Pentax K10d, and a bigger bag, in order to have both of the boddies with me. Pentax K10d and Pentax Z1. Why?
1.Because if one of them breaks or gets out of order, I 'll continue my job with the other one.
2.If you have telezooms then with Pentax K10D you can can have great teles, while with Pentax Z1 you can have extra wide angles.
Because of Pentax faults I cannot find a FF lens with angle 16-40.
Fortunately, Tamron came to help Pentax customers with the very good lens 17-35/f2.8-4. Unfortunately, Tamron must have stopped producing it for Pentax and Minolta and I do not know why. But, I 'll try to find it.
See what I mean? Pentax do not respect its customers and I think that loses money, because if the new lenses were combatible to older bodies, Pentax would make more money as its' sales would be better, I suppose.
Something similar happens with flashes and problems with P-TTL.
See at:http://www.geocities.com/ricehigh/P-TTL_Vs_TTL.html

Some people here got very angry and I do not know why. Everything I said was based on the respect for the old and the new customers, as well, of Pentax. I didn't want to make sad anyone of you. And I apologize again about it, although someone called me (liitle animal, nitwit, or sth like that).
As I respect myself, I respect everyone of you and the same for this forum. And I am trying to critisize myself and my choices as well.
Pentax is my choice, but I am not blind. I would like Pentax to have the success that Z1 had. Z1 was one of the best camera with full equipment in a very good price.
Pentax needs strong models to survive, as all of you know that Pentax had economy problems in the recent past. Where is Minolta? And what kind of rates did we have for the previous digital models?
Anyway, I can't rely on 645 model or 6x6 as the lenses there are very expensive for the amateur people of Pentax (you said that).
And the bodies are heavy enough for shoting outdoor, or speed photos (weddings, formula races etc).
The 6MP or the 10MP are pretty good for me too. The size of the CCD changed the lenses' analogy to the body. Everyone of you bought a SLR body because you want most of photography tricks, with a powerful tool. So, you decided to invest on new Pentax tecnhology. Congratulations for this!!!
But, if Pentax is going to make everything I told you then, you will be so sad as I got. Because, you will see new equipment (especially bodies). With the lenses or the flashguns you are not going to have any problem. Untill then I imagine that I will remain a nitwit, won't I?

OK.
You are right! If you think that everything I told you is because I want to protect MY preferences, I apologize here to everyone of the forum.
It is difficult to change my firm. See to my signature and you will understand with which company I am.
Simple!! I 'll keep shoting with my Z1

Sorry and thanks for your time!!!

I am afraid that a lot of people here don't understand that Pentax cannot avoid the production of a FF Digital Body, at the same time that every other company will have producted at least one .
Canon was the first! Primarily, very expensive, but the cost is getting down and down. Nikon is on the second place. Pentax and Olympus will be late again, but they must do it because they want to gain new customers and the customers of the future will be more technofreak than now.
It is the same game with computer technology. All of the people watch the battle between the photo companies and see that Canon make lenses that are also compatible to FF bodies, so they think that they can invest on Canon equipment.
Another point is the following. Imagine that I am a proffesional photographer and want to have both an analog body and a digital as well. If I have different lenses and flashes for every body, tell me one reason, just one why I should remain in Pentax and not buy the new Olympus E-400 which you can buy with two lenses for 850€. A nice 10 MP camera, like Pentax, with a very good reputation, maybe better than pentax in Digital Technology sections?
That's why I tell you that the main advantage of Pentax must be compatibility. They must think about past, about future and in Greece we say "The history teaches!!!". Is it so difficult to be compatible with older flashes? Of course not. Pentax *istD was.
So, it is a game. If you want to be marketing victims, do whatever your hearts tell you. But, don't be surprised when you 'll see FF bodies which will not be compatible with the current lenses.
I can surely tell you that none of the current bodies will be flagship for more than 5 years. Pentax Z1 was the flagship of Pentax for more than 15 years!!! This is not going to happen again.
Just remember!!! Pentax K100D, K10D. There is no need to be clever to see in the future a model like this:
PENTAX K1D.

DON'T BUY PENTAX DIGITAL LENSES.
The reason is that these lenses can't be put on analog bodies and on future full-frame CCD digitall bodies. The great advantage of Pentax was the compatibility among their products. Where is it now?

And not only this. Every TTL flash by Pentax doesn't cooperate with digital bodies from DL and then.
Pentax K100, K110, DL, K10 can not use TTL technology, but P-TTL instead.
Ok, Pentax your customers bought FTZ-500 for 400€. Some other have Pentax 330, some other Metz, etc.
My friends "DON' T BUY ANY PENTAX LENSES, UNLESS THEY ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE OLDER BODIES"

I am terribly sorry about it, but we must answer to the technical faults of Pentax.

I do not want to buy a bigger camera like 645. If you do buy it. I prefer to remain to 35mm SLR.
One of the most important advantages of Pentax is compatibility. The most important. You can find anything and put it on a Pentax body. Manual focus or Auto focus, Pentax, Carl-Ceiss, Chinon, Tamron, Tokina, Vivitar, etc etc.
Pentax is a serious company and it is not going to put the moter on the lenses.
There are lenses that cost millions. Could you imagine such a lens with a broken motor?
I think Pentax is going to produce a body with FF and I think that a lot of people are going to get it.
People that have invested on Pentax equipment for years and have manual or AF bodies with lenses will get it. Also techno-freeks would like to take a camera with FF which means a great gadget for them.
I strongly believe and hope that Pentax will give such a FF body because after the success of the new models for the serious amateurs would probably like to come closer to professionals.
I gave you 3 reasons.
And as I have already said in another topic,
PENTAX K100D --> 6MP
PENTAX K10D --> 10 MP SEMI-PROFESSIONAL MODEL
PENTAX K1D --> FULL FRAME PROFESSIONAL MODEL

IF I SEE SUCH A MODEL I CAN GIVE ALMOST 1500€ TO BUY IT.
If you are pleased for the current models keep them and not go further. All of us are free to chose.

I WOULD BUY A FULL FRAME PENTAX FOR 1000pounds, but I want this body to be compatible with TTL Flashes and all the lenses by Pentax.
If it becomes true, please send me a message.
I got tired to wait Pentax to do the right things.

My friends,
Do you remember what I had said?

johnriley, see http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs/Nikon/nikon_d3.asp
about Nikon Full Frame body.
So, did you see how clearly was Nikon statement?

All the rest see
http://masterchong.com/v2...sony-alpha-dslr-a900.html
about Sony movements.

George, do you still think that everything I had told is : "Rubbish..."?

You said that:
"Modern lenses work with modern cameras. There will never be a so-called "full-frame" Pentax DSLR, and most people will never use film again, so they will not be disadvantaged in any way by buying modern lenses. "

About film don't be so sure as there a lot of people who lost their digiatal data and are very thoughtful. Anyway, take a look at
http://blogs.photopreneur.com/photographers-who-still-use-film

Never be sure about future. Many things are going to change...!!!

Thank you for your answer. I think that you are right.

You didn't mention anything about Full Frame?
Do you believe that Pentax isn't going to produce Full Frame bodies?

My friend,
You know that I am not so keen on Nikon. If I was, I wouldn't participate in this forum.
I have been a Pentax fun for years, and still I am.

I am afraid that a lot of people here don't understand that Pentax cannot avoid the production of a FF Digital Body, at the same time that every other company will.
Canon was the first. Nikon is on the second place. Pentax and Olympus will be late again, but they must do it because they want to gain new customers and the customers of the future will be more technofreak than now.
It is the same game with computer technology.
I can surely tell you that no body will be flagship for more than 5 years. Pentax Z1 was the flagship of Pentax for more than 15 years!!! This is not going to happen again.
Just remember!!!