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Comment by RalphHardwick posted on External microphone for Video at 14/02/2013 - 12:56
We did a 3 week expedition driving through Tunisia into the Sahara and back.
I wanted to film it all so I mounted a video camera on the windscreen.
When we returned I had 60 hours of some of the most boring video possible as it was all filmed from the same point of view. I took months to edit it down and by combining it with still images I was able to produce a DVD of about 100 minutes that was worth watching.
For our next trip I will be using, at least, one Go Pro Hero 2, a Kodak Playsport and the K5ii.
The two smaller cameras will mount in various locations on and in the car and the Pentax will be used for street filming and (hopefully) some artistic shots of the sun and landscapes.
By combining a variety of angles and planning my shots a bit more I hope to make the editing a lot easier and the end result more entertaining.
I wanted to film it all so I mounted a video camera on the windscreen.
When we returned I had 60 hours of some of the most boring video possible as it was all filmed from the same point of view. I took months to edit it down and by combining it with still images I was able to produce a DVD of about 100 minutes that was worth watching.
For our next trip I will be using, at least, one Go Pro Hero 2, a Kodak Playsport and the K5ii.
The two smaller cameras will mount in various locations on and in the car and the Pentax will be used for street filming and (hopefully) some artistic shots of the sun and landscapes.
By combining a variety of angles and planning my shots a bit more I hope to make the editing a lot easier and the end result more entertaining.
Comment by RalphHardwick posted on Where for Video?? at 14/02/2013 - 12:31
PM sent re: flash
Comment by RalphHardwick posted on FS: Pentax FA's, Ltd, K and accessories at 14/02/2013 - 12:17
Danny
Although the editing package mentioned are good there is, as mentioned, a steep learning curve.
Windows movie maker or iMovie for macs are both free (or very cheap) and are a good starter for 10 as they are simple to use and provide most of the basics for editing.
I use Final Cut Pro and Adobe premier but started with the free ones first.
There is virtually no way to produce a 'pro look' video with a single camera without a lot of work. It involves filming from one position, moving the camera and then repeating the action several time from different viewpoints and then editing the separate views together to make it look like the action occurred as one. The soundtrack needs to be separated and spread across the edited clips to add continuity.
In many ways the actual filming is the easy part, planning yeou story, working out the angles, positioning the kit, 'directing' the action, editing and finishing can take far longer and more effort.
Here are a couple of my efforts using imovie and single camera:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRplu823xkU
On the next one you can hear the big limitation of using the on board mic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFTJSuimy8o
Although the editing package mentioned are good there is, as mentioned, a steep learning curve.
Windows movie maker or iMovie for macs are both free (or very cheap) and are a good starter for 10 as they are simple to use and provide most of the basics for editing.
I use Final Cut Pro and Adobe premier but started with the free ones first.
There is virtually no way to produce a 'pro look' video with a single camera without a lot of work. It involves filming from one position, moving the camera and then repeating the action several time from different viewpoints and then editing the separate views together to make it look like the action occurred as one. The soundtrack needs to be separated and spread across the edited clips to add continuity.
In many ways the actual filming is the easy part, planning yeou story, working out the angles, positioning the kit, 'directing' the action, editing and finishing can take far longer and more effort.
Here are a couple of my efforts using imovie and single camera:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRplu823xkU
On the next one you can hear the big limitation of using the on board mic.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFTJSuimy8o
Comment by RalphHardwick posted on Where for Video?? at 14/02/2013 - 12:03
I was tempted to start another thread just to 'up the numbers' but decided to continue this one as it has attracted some interest.
Others may have already seen this but it really does show what the K5 is capable of without manual control or focus peaking.
link
It also shows the importance of editing, multiple angles, good composition, good understanding of light and a story.
I am really looking forward to building this function into my travels.
Others may have already seen this but it really does show what the K5 is capable of without manual control or focus peaking.
link
It also shows the importance of editing, multiple angles, good composition, good understanding of light and a story.
I am really looking forward to building this function into my travels.
Comment by RalphHardwick posted on Where for Video?? at 13/02/2013 - 10:53
MrCynical wrote:
To be fair, this is a Pentax forum and Pentax DSLRs don't even AF in video yet.
One reason for some serious discussion then To be fair, this is a Pentax forum and Pentax DSLRs don't even AF in video yet.
- How much of a problem is this?
- How do people get around the problem?
- Is it possible to upgrade the AF in a future firmware update or will it need a hardware change?
- Is it possible to 'lobby' pentax for a more serious video function on this, or the next, DSLR?
-etc.
Personally I don't understand the reluctance to establish a video section. Every new forum has to start with a single post before it attracts more interest. Who knows it might even encourage people to give it a try.
Posting under the Pentax DSLR section is ok but not really ideal for discussions about post production editing techniques,software tips or what external microphone/lighting is best.
However I don't run the forum so I shall shut up.
I feel certain that this topic will crop up again. In the meantime, once I have some video information to share, I shall post it as directed.
Comment by RalphHardwick posted on Where for Video?? at 13/02/2013 - 09:27
If the second one was taken with the flash not working then it still turned out to be a blinding image. Well done
Comment by RalphHardwick posted on trigger at 12/02/2013 - 18:43
Video was the key reason for my change to Pentax. I used an Olympus E520 for several years and was very happy with it. However On my last trips abroad I have started to dabble with video and didn't want to walk around with 2 cameras.
The Olympus 'upgrade' path meant the E5 which, after a reasonably in-depth comparison, came second to the K5ii. That meant a wholesale selling of camera, 5 lenses, flash and other accesories and a big credit card bill spent at SRS
Any video I capture will be hosted on my own website or youtube but it would be good to have a section of the forum to discuss issues, tips, techniques, software packages and recive critiques of our latest blockbusters.
I can see that this could be a bit of a 'catch 22': there are no posts about video so we don't need a separate area but because there is no separate area there is nowhere to post
Does it matter if a section is created that only attracts a few posts? To those that post it does.
If there is no cost involved and a moderator can spare the time I would like to request a dedicated 'nook' for us movie moguls
The Olympus 'upgrade' path meant the E5 which, after a reasonably in-depth comparison, came second to the K5ii. That meant a wholesale selling of camera, 5 lenses, flash and other accesories and a big credit card bill spent at SRS
Any video I capture will be hosted on my own website or youtube but it would be good to have a section of the forum to discuss issues, tips, techniques, software packages and recive critiques of our latest blockbusters.
I can see that this could be a bit of a 'catch 22': there are no posts about video so we don't need a separate area but because there is no separate area there is nowhere to post
Does it matter if a section is created that only attracts a few posts? To those that post it does.
If there is no cost involved and a moderator can spare the time I would like to request a dedicated 'nook' for us movie moguls
Comment by RalphHardwick posted on Where for Video?? at 12/02/2013 - 18:39
I have no criticism of the quality of the images' it's the choice of subject that I found 'underwhelming'.
By making the film the producers were apportioning a great significance to the role (not roll) of Kodachrome and its impact on photography. To me the images on the last roll (not role) should have celebrated that significance by trying to capture a breadth of subject matter, image types (e.g. where are the landscapes) and geography representing what that film had helped achieve over its lifespan. Instead it revolved completely around the photographer rather than the importance of the film.
I know it was his idea and that he was happy wit the results but it didn't warrant making a film about IMHO.
Still it filled half and hour.
By making the film the producers were apportioning a great significance to the role (not roll) of Kodachrome and its impact on photography. To me the images on the last roll (not role) should have celebrated that significance by trying to capture a breadth of subject matter, image types (e.g. where are the landscapes) and geography representing what that film had helped achieve over its lifespan. Instead it revolved completely around the photographer rather than the importance of the film.
I know it was his idea and that he was happy wit the results but it didn't warrant making a film about IMHO.
Still it filled half and hour.
Comment by RalphHardwick posted on Steve McCurry’s 'Last Roll of Kodachrome' at 11/02/2013 - 13:35
When I first heard of this I was really looking forward to seeing it.
Unfortunately I felt it was a bit lame. I would have expected 36 unique pictures of a variety of things.
some photos of a film star, a few of the streets outside his apartment in New York and the majority taken in one village in India seemed a bit of a wasted opportunity.
Still, others may like it
I've now looked at the photo album for the first time and there are some images there which are not featured in the film. Nice images but still a lost opportunity IMHO.
Unfortunately I felt it was a bit lame. I would have expected 36 unique pictures of a variety of things.
some photos of a film star, a few of the streets outside his apartment in New York and the majority taken in one village in India seemed a bit of a wasted opportunity.
Still, others may like it
I've now looked at the photo album for the first time and there are some images there which are not featured in the film. Nice images but still a lost opportunity IMHO.
Comment by RalphHardwick posted on Steve McCurry’s 'Last Roll of Kodachrome' at 10/02/2013 - 19:36
The inbuilt microphone (on the k5ii) is only mono and is not ideal. I have purchased one of these:
Sony-ECM-DS70P
I haven't tried it 'in anger' yet but a quick trial seemed to work very well. It's small and discrete and I thought about 'blutac-ing' it to the hot shoe (temporarily) to film street scenes. Aparently there are some fake Chinese versions on ebay for a few pounds which get fairly good reviews.
For a higher quality sound I was considering one of these:
Zoom Hi
It can be directly fixed, using a mount, to the camera as a 'live' mic or can be used remotely to record the sound and then sync'd later in editing.
I would welcome any advice or other options.