Eheh
right... i didn't specified why i wrote that list and why i said 16-45 is slow..
17-70 is a fantastic combo because it has a very perfect range ... who cares then if it's f4 ?
f4 is not fast as 2.8 but it's fast enough if the focal range is 17-70 ^^ no ?
I said 16-45 is not fast enought for this reason.

TA = max aperture... i don't know if ta is just in italian... xD

And... no, 16-50 f2.8 is not a good choice... well... if you know somebody who sells it for 350€... ok !!!! ahahhaah

Hello everyone
i just received my new k20d + 18-250 and tumax flash ( won on ebay ) and cause i sold my dear k10d + kit ( AL II ), now i'm gonna rebuild my "normal" park of lenses.
The idea is to sell the 18-250 ( already in lot of forums/places ) because i have no use of it ( i'm already covered from 50 of excellent glasses ^^ ) and to buy a very fast af zoom.
After seeing a lot of reviews and opinions, the list ( by preference ) is:
1. Sigma 24-60 f2.8 - Sharper than 24-70 sigma and wide enough to be a good Permanent lens on the k20d body. It's my best choice because it has a very good range (24 is enough for me in the wide side for the permanent zoom), it's sharp from TA and it's price is wonderfull (or not ? Oo)
2. Pentax 17-70 f4 - It's on second place just because of the sdm fails... I want to buy this objects "used", so no warranty ecc... If sdm fails i'm F****D
I would love a non sdm 17-70... this range is fantastic and i don't care about the TA f4 instead of f2.8
3. Tamron 28-75 f2.8 - Sharp from TA but there are 4 mm less then the sigma. If i buy it i have to take also a "wide" prime. More expensive than the sigma
4. Pentax 16-45 f4 - Nothing to say... good enough but not "fast" enough to be my favourite choice. The range also is good but i would prefer some mm more then 45 :
5. Tamron/sigma 18-50 ( or 17-50 ) f2.8. I saw some opinions saying "sharper from TA" and others "sharp from 5.6"... I think those lenses had discontinous production.

Sorry for my bad english... i'm out of training ^^
Have you anything to add to my personal list ? I'm searching and i'll search for weeks... Best price will win.

P.S. i know the 24-90 pentax, but i don't like his structure and mechanical

I'm selling this beauty
Conditions are perfect and i'm selling it because it hasn't any use in my photographic project.
It comes with the hood and original caps, everything in the original box.
















PRICE: 350€ + shipping cost

I'm searching a fast AF zoom

Sigma 24-60 f2.8
Sigma 18-50 f2.8
Tamron 28-75 f2.8
Tamron 17-50 f2.8
Pentax 17-70 f4
Pentax 16-45 f4

Everything shall be in mint/perfect conditions. A good extra would be a warranty.
If you are offering a 17-70 f4 sdm, the warranty is obligatory ( cause of multiple sdm bugs ).

Cheers

wrong white balancement ...
It seems you used flash in the 3rd, the best result for the 1st and 2nd was and hdr... the blue from the window is burned :

Hello
My name is Lorenzo and i'm from Ita...
and yes... football sux ! >_<
i came here from the advise of my friend to sell my k10d ( upgrading to k20d ).
my flickr is http://www.flickr.com/photos/elpimps/

I sell my K10D cause of upgrade to K20D
Conditions: Perfect
Auctitions: 7000+
Included in package: Everything was in the original box + non-original battery

Body Only : 310€ + postage
Body + 18-55 AL II : 380€ + postage

If someone is interested i can make pictures of the item (i'll use the k200d of a friend xD )

Hello
K10D, perfect condition.
Bought at 400 actuations ( January ), now 7000.
No defects on it. It's simply in perfect conditions as new.

Price:
310€+postage body only
380€+postage body + 18-55 AL II

Includes:
everything in original box
1 extra battery ( no original )