French trip - 3 pics
Posted 26/06/2010 - 10:19
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wrong white balancement ...
It seems you used flash in the 3rd, the best result for the 1st and 2nd was and hdr... the blue from the window is burned :
It seems you used flash in the 3rd, the best result for the 1st and 2nd was and hdr... the blue from the window is burned :
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Posted 26/06/2010 - 10:31
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Flash has not been used on that trip .
The Church window is not the original one and the glass is in varying shades of blues and whites.
There are only 3 windows in the Church and the other 2 windows are not affected
The Church window is not the original one and the glass is in varying shades of blues and whites.
There are only 3 windows in the Church and the other 2 windows are not affected
let the education continue
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Posted 26/06/2010 - 11:20
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Looks like a simple case of wrong white balance to me too, I assume you had it set to auto as you say other shots were OK.
On both my K10&20D I find the auto white balance gets it right more often than a specific setting, though on occasion it does get it horribly wrong, and that is usually when there is a mix of various lighting.
Had the blue lighting from the window had any serious effect then the camera (assuming set to AWB) it would have tried to warm the image up.
On both my K10&20D I find the auto white balance gets it right more often than a specific setting, though on occasion it does get it horribly wrong, and that is usually when there is a mix of various lighting.
Had the blue lighting from the window had any serious effect then the camera (assuming set to AWB) it would have tried to warm the image up.
Posted 26/06/2010 - 11:59
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hmmm - will need to check what white balance is set to - I suspect Automatic .
That will then also account for one I took in the Museum as Homework for the college course earlier this year .
Thanks - that makes sense
That will then also account for one I took in the Museum as Homework for the college course earlier this year .
Thanks - that makes sense
let the education continue
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Posted 26/06/2010 - 18:13
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There's really good shadow detail in what must have been a gloomy interior. Hand held, I guess, but still quite sharp enough.
I'm sure these can be "rescued" by using "variations" in Photoshop and slightly tweaking the colour balance. The first one is only slightly blue and the second slightly orange, so I'd have a go at doing this.
I'm sure these can be "rescued" by using "variations" in Photoshop and slightly tweaking the colour balance. The first one is only slightly blue and the second slightly orange, so I'd have a go at doing this.
Best wishes,
Andrew
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Posted 26/06/2010 - 18:26
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techno-terminator wrote:
Why am I puzzled - it's the strong blue light showing - in the first 2 clearly from the Window and reflected onto the floor - BUT I did not notice the light on the floor when I was there .
This is because the camera sensor is much more sensitive to blue light than your eye is, particularly when reflected. At work, we frequently (deliberatly) put a blue light on a studio floor that appears very dim to the eye, but jumps out on (TV) camera - particularly the more saturated shades. There have even been special shades designed to exploit this, such as Lee 363. The camera sensitivity to different colours is biased by the Matrix used - the DSLR equivalent of this would be switching from sRGB to AdobeRGB - but the variations from one camera to another have a lot more to do with the sensor manufacturer than anything you can achieve by fiddling with settings...
Why am I puzzled - it's the strong blue light showing - in the first 2 clearly from the Window and reflected onto the floor - BUT I did not notice the light on the floor when I was there .
Still shooting in the dark (literally and metaphorically)...
Posted 26/06/2010 - 19:38
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Flossie - you are about 12 feet above my head with that .
What I'm taking from you is - that I'll have to be aware that this can be a problem and therefore since there's not much I can do about it to avoid it - try and stay away from the situation . Would that sum it up ?
OH - thought ! I'm still shooting in jpeg since I have this block with elements so Andrew , I'm not going to be able to try your idea
What I'm taking from you is - that I'll have to be aware that this can be a problem and therefore since there's not much I can do about it to avoid it - try and stay away from the situation . Would that sum it up ?
OH - thought ! I'm still shooting in jpeg since I have this block with elements so Andrew , I'm not going to be able to try your idea
let the education continue
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Posted 26/06/2010 - 19:43
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Sorry
short version : any blue light may appear "more blue" in your photos. Particularly if you are indoors with any external daylight in shot.
Just consider it as a clever effect, not as a problem!
short version : any blue light may appear "more blue" in your photos. Particularly if you are indoors with any external daylight in shot.
Just consider it as a clever effect, not as a problem!
Still shooting in the dark (literally and metaphorically)...
Posted 26/06/2010 - 19:48
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Thanks
And before anyone accuses me of camera shake the movement in the last was not down to me - the lady appeared just as I had focused and was taking the shot I couldn't actually stop my finger going down
And before anyone accuses me of camera shake the movement in the last was not down to me - the lady appeared just as I had focused and was taking the shot I couldn't actually stop my finger going down
let the education continue
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Posted 26/06/2010 - 20:01
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Mr Spider
There are times ...........
There are times ...........
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Posted 27/06/2010 - 17:46
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Auto white balance tends to work fine out-of-doors, but inside is a different matter. You need to take as much care over white balance as you do over exposure.
If you habitually shoot indoors, shooting RAW will enable you to achieve the right balance later.
G
If you habitually shoot indoors, shooting RAW will enable you to achieve the right balance later.
G
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Posted 27/06/2010 - 18:42
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I suppose I shoot about 50/50 indoors and out depending on where I am etc.
I intend to go to RAW - but I have to conquer my fear /dread / non comprehension of the interface between Bridge and Elements first.
I can work perfectly peacefully in iPhoto but it doesn't work with RAW
When working in isolation and no-one near to help it is a problem when you learn better from doing rather than from books.
I intend to go to RAW - but I have to conquer my fear /dread / non comprehension of the interface between Bridge and Elements first.
I can work perfectly peacefully in iPhoto but it doesn't work with RAW
When working in isolation and no-one near to help it is a problem when you learn better from doing rather than from books.
let the education continue
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Posted 27/06/2010 - 23:02
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Hi TT,
I also avoid RAW for the simple reason that I don't master the technique - yet. There are, however, many good tutorials in the different photo magazines. Some of them even supply video lessons.
But I have found very little of why moving a slider just that much, or explaining exactly what one should look for. I will continue trying, and in the end I will hopefully master it.
As for your pictures, I think they are good holiday memories. I would not worry too much about the blue - it's just the way blue coloured glass turns the daylight coming through.
In our digital world, when I noticed somebody disturbing the shot, like the lady in your last picture, I would have waited for her to settle down and then made another shot. After all, they are free, aren't they?
I also avoid RAW for the simple reason that I don't master the technique - yet. There are, however, many good tutorials in the different photo magazines. Some of them even supply video lessons.
But I have found very little of why moving a slider just that much, or explaining exactly what one should look for. I will continue trying, and in the end I will hopefully master it.
As for your pictures, I think they are good holiday memories. I would not worry too much about the blue - it's just the way blue coloured glass turns the daylight coming through.
In our digital world, when I noticed somebody disturbing the shot, like the lady in your last picture, I would have waited for her to settle down and then made another shot. After all, they are free, aren't they?
Best regards
Terry
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However I am puzzled and looking for ideas - these are interior shots 2 take the same day and one taken 3 days later . They are in different Churches . Why am I puzzled - it's the strong blue light showing - in the first 2 clearly from the Window and reflected onto the floor - BUT I did not notice the light on the floor when I was there . In the third again I have strong blue colour on the lady's dress - but it wasn't like that in real life - it was much darker and I got the accurate colour a few shots later [ which I will not post as her Disabled son is clearly in shot ]
Any ideas about avoiding this strong blue colour ? In the Church interiors it adds interest but it also distracts.
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