All Forum Comments
Comment by paullucas posted on K20D versus Nikon D300 at 15/07/2009 - 13:38
Sorry Scott, I am not sure how you got into this most silly conversation, I find it quite amusing actually...hope you do too
Comment by paullucas posted on K20D versus Nikon D300 at 15/07/2009 - 13:31
George Lazarette wrote:
G
But George, it surely doesn't matter what camera you use, isn't it the person behind the camera that counts. Who's to say that Scott doesn't use MF? That is the only difference in that shot as the *ist D was, and still is a great camera. The camera used makes no difference. All that is different is a Manual Focus lens.paullucas wrote:
Ok he may not have your experience but I believe he takes a better picture. I use these as an example:
link
and
link
Experience is not everything, being able to see and take a great image is. I believe Scott has what it takes and I would welcome his expertise anytime.
Paul
He's certainly come on a long way, but I wonder how he would fare using a *ist D and a manual focus lens, which is the reason I posted that picture.Ok he may not have your experience but I believe he takes a better picture. I use these as an example:
link
and
link
Experience is not everything, being able to see and take a great image is. I believe Scott has what it takes and I would welcome his expertise anytime.
Paul
G
Not sure what point you are getting at here. I know what image I would go for!
Comment by paullucas posted on K20D versus Nikon D300 at 15/07/2009 - 13:30
Gwyn wrote:
As it is this is all very boring and seems a totally pointless thread, as do the others along the same lines.
If you all want to go to Nikon that is your choice. Go and join Nikonians.org and stop moaning about Pentax here and do it there where you will be met with sympathy for ever having been so stupid as to think Pentax was worth owning in the first place. Leave those of us who enjoy our Pentax cameras and the safe haven from know-it-alls and camera snobs that is Pentax User alone.
Gwyn you are missing the point!Cloudhunter wrote:
Perhaps this forum needs to be renamed Pentax&Nikonuser.co.uk?
The day that happens I'm out of here. Perhaps this forum needs to be renamed Pentax&Nikonuser.co.uk?
As it is this is all very boring and seems a totally pointless thread, as do the others along the same lines.
If you all want to go to Nikon that is your choice. Go and join Nikonians.org and stop moaning about Pentax here and do it there where you will be met with sympathy for ever having been so stupid as to think Pentax was worth owning in the first place. Leave those of us who enjoy our Pentax cameras and the safe haven from know-it-alls and camera snobs that is Pentax User alone.
I have no problems with Pentax and I have said that I might stay with my K20. I don't regret using Pentax, I have not said that at all and I am not after any sympathy, no idea where you got that from.
I do hope you are not referring to me as a know-it-all or a camera snob.
I do agree with you though that this is a pointless thread and may I say that I did not start it!
I did hope that I would be welcome to stay on this site as I do find it (Usually) a very good forum full of (Usually) friendly people
Paul
Comment by paullucas posted on K20D versus Nikon D300 at 15/07/2009 - 13:13
scottthehat wrote:
Scott, if he does indeed mean you, and my suspicions indicate that he does, then I actually think that he is the jealous one!George Lazarette wrote:
G
G
(whispers)i think he means mepaullucas wrote:
I guess that in that first sentence, (paranoia maybe), you are referring to me. I am not humouring you by making a comment about that.
Paul
You couldn't be further from the mark. You explained your reasons a while ago; if you were less paranoid you would realise that I was referring to a rather less experienced class of photographer altogether.I guess that in that first sentence, (paranoia maybe), you are referring to me. I am not humouring you by making a comment about that.
Paul
G
G
Not being funny here George but Scott knows how to use a camera, judging by his images he has learnt how to pretty darn well.
Ok he may not have your experience but I believe he takes a better picture. I use these as an example:
link
and
link
Experience is not everything, being able to see and take a great image is. I believe Scott has what it takes and I would welcome his expertise anytime.
Paul
Comment by paullucas posted on K20D versus Nikon D300 at 15/07/2009 - 12:47
scottthehat wrote:
how did you get them to stay still for you,
Hahahaha, cor this is the first time I have smiled during this whole thread...I can imagine George will make that a short lived thing though!how did you get them to stay still for you,
Cloudhunter wrote:
Hey you never know Pentax may be reading this and decide to overhaul the AF on the K8?
Hmmm lets hope hey...Hey you never know Pentax may be reading this and decide to overhaul the AF on the K8?
Paul
Comment by paullucas posted on K20D versus Nikon D300 at 15/07/2009 - 12:10
Tooks wrote:
I can be found at Cad-West, the Lake District (low flying aircraft) and the airfields of Lincolnshire frequently!
Wow!!! Fantastic imagesCloudhunter wrote:
I agree Tooks!
Im into aviation in a big way and take plenty of shots. Mine is mostly daylight so the AF of my gx20 works faultlessly 99% of the time. I did try some shots in low light and it was a pig.
If my shots change and I need better af low light or I shoot faster aircraft requiring faster AF and pentax cant provide me with a camera to do it then i will change immediately.
Matt
P.S Unless i have chance to play with a d300 and fall for the AF before hand
Well, not sure where you are, but you're welcome to have a play with mine if it will help!I agree Tooks!
Im into aviation in a big way and take plenty of shots. Mine is mostly daylight so the AF of my gx20 works faultlessly 99% of the time. I did try some shots in low light and it was a pig.
If my shots change and I need better af low light or I shoot faster aircraft requiring faster AF and pentax cant provide me with a camera to do it then i will change immediately.
Matt
P.S Unless i have chance to play with a d300 and fall for the AF before hand
I can be found at Cad-West, the Lake District (low flying aircraft) and the airfields of Lincolnshire frequently!
Well done
Paul
Comment by paullucas posted on K20D versus Nikon D300 at 15/07/2009 - 12:05
Thank you Cloudhunter and Tooks, finally people are realising that my change has nothing to do with making my photographs better.
Tooks, I didn't realise that you changed system. Did you get the same stick as well then from a certain someone?
Thanks for the wish of good luck Cloudhunter, much appreciated!
Paul
Tooks, I didn't realise that you changed system. Did you get the same stick as well then from a certain someone?
Thanks for the wish of good luck Cloudhunter, much appreciated!
Paul
Comment by paullucas posted on K20D versus Nikon D300 at 15/07/2009 - 12:02
Cloudhunter wrote:
Ive been reading up onthis and i think the general opinion is this..
The main draw to the nikon is the 51 point AF and notably how utterly fast it is to lock on.
It depends on what you shoot as wether this would be a benefit.
I shoot aircraft mainly so it would be a massive benefit to me.
Matt
Matt, my photography is varied, I do the usual; portraiture, weddings and events and I love doing wildlife and landscapes in my spare time. Events can mean anything though, this is what I cover im my joint business. They could be dinners, large weddings where 2 photographers are required, or if I take last year we covered a car racing finals at Goodwood. I switched to MF there as the AF let me down on a number of occasions. Ive been reading up onthis and i think the general opinion is this..
The main draw to the nikon is the 51 point AF and notably how utterly fast it is to lock on.
It depends on what you shoot as wether this would be a benefit.
I shoot aircraft mainly so it would be a massive benefit to me.
Matt
It is not only the AF that pulls me back to Nikon, the main thing in all this is the expansion of my career, and being self employed is the main thing for my wife and I.
Ok in a few years time if I realise I have made a huge cock-up I may come back to Pentax with my tail between my legs and purchase the K12, somehow though, I don't think that will happen!
Paul
Comment by paullucas posted on K20D versus Nikon D300 at 15/07/2009 - 11:54
Anvh wrote:
So according to you a Hasselblad H3D isn't a DSLR?
Medium format only refers to the size of the film/sensor, the Hasselblad H3D use a mechanical mirror system and pentaprism to direct light from the lens to an optical viewfinder on the back of the camera, that is what a SLR is right.
So according to you a Hasselblad H3D isn't a DSLR?
Medium format only refers to the size of the film/sensor, the Hasselblad H3D use a mechanical mirror system and pentaprism to direct light from the lens to an optical viewfinder on the back of the camera, that is what a SLR is right.
I was refering to the Smaller format and I thought that was pretty obvious really, but if you want to throw in the Hassleblad then you do that, I am not commenting on it!
Anvh wrote:
The descusion was only about APS-C format at first, you introduced the Nikon D3 to it.
Yves said this "Beside, quite often, I find Nikon cameras are overrated. They are good cameras, but they're not the Holy Grail."
You argued the D3X is widely known as the best camera.
We are only talking about cameras about this point and when I said Hasselblad makes better cameras, you said that doesn't count since they are MF.
At no point it was clear we were only talking about APS-C and FF format if I'm correct, we only said cameras.
Again, The D3X is widely known as the best FF camera, I stand by what I said about Yves comment. I brought the D3 into the conversation as it was one of the cameras I was looking at. Yves was talking about Nikon in general so that is why I brought the D3 into it. DX & FX not MF.The descusion was only about APS-C format at first, you introduced the Nikon D3 to it.
Yves said this "Beside, quite often, I find Nikon cameras are overrated. They are good cameras, but they're not the Holy Grail."
You argued the D3X is widely known as the best camera.
We are only talking about cameras about this point and when I said Hasselblad makes better cameras, you said that doesn't count since they are MF.
At no point it was clear we were only talking about APS-C and FF format if I'm correct, we only said cameras.
Anvh wrote:
What do you call the Canon 5D mark II, seems quite professional to me though. Okay not a 1D but the next best thing though.
And you reason is beyond my understanding to be honest, if you don't need it just don't use it.
The hardware isn't different from a camera without video and it's only software that enables it to take videos.
Some cameras without video mode can record movies by altering the software on it, basically if the camera can handle it you can make any camera record video. The D300 and the D3X are for sure capable to record video since they have liveview.
I am talking about Nikon and Pentax here, I purposefully left Canon out, please read my comments properly.What do you call the Canon 5D mark II, seems quite professional to me though. Okay not a 1D but the next best thing though.
And you reason is beyond my understanding to be honest, if you don't need it just don't use it.
The hardware isn't different from a camera without video and it's only software that enables it to take videos.
Some cameras without video mode can record movies by altering the software on it, basically if the camera can handle it you can make any camera record video. The D300 and the D3X are for sure capable to record video since they have liveview.
George Lazarette wrote:
Paul,
What I am arguing with is the often not very good photographers who buy into a new system on the basis of paper specifications or forum rumours thinking it will make them better photographers.
G
I consider myself a very good photographer, I base that on excellent customer feedback and my own views. Me changing system has nothing to do with gaining better pictures. I know how to use a camera properly, having learnt on film back in the FM2 and F3 days. If you read my thread carefully it stated that I used to own a Nikon kit. I am merely going back to a kit that I do actually prefer. I can't see why you are making syuch a huge thing of this.Paul,
What I am arguing with is the often not very good photographers who buy into a new system on the basis of paper specifications or forum rumours thinking it will make them better photographers.
G
I have told you the reason why I am looking at the D300 first, this is purely my decision and no one else has swayed me into thinking that.
Pwynnej wrote:
But I have a K10D I am happy with, and actually contemplating a K20 - when you read many threads from people switching systems you get the sense they are not happy with Pentax, they don't like Pentax, they want to have a go at Pentax, they have an agenda, or their technical skills suck to such an extent that another system will automatically make them better. Maybe the last category applies to me, but my main point is if people switch systems thinking their images will improve dramatically then they will be disappointed. Nikon, Canon, Pentax, Sony etc aren't perfect....some are almost but the next new model is only 12-18 months away
I have been happy with Pentax for many years, In some ways I still am, I do like my K20 still and am umming and arring whether to keep it still as I do use this when I teach children photography. Yes I allow children to take photographs with my equipment (I am a Full Enhanced CRB'd Youth Worker in my spare time). I know that I will not be dissapointed when I change systems.But I have a K10D I am happy with, and actually contemplating a K20 - when you read many threads from people switching systems you get the sense they are not happy with Pentax, they don't like Pentax, they want to have a go at Pentax, they have an agenda, or their technical skills suck to such an extent that another system will automatically make them better. Maybe the last category applies to me, but my main point is if people switch systems thinking their images will improve dramatically then they will be disappointed. Nikon, Canon, Pentax, Sony etc aren't perfect....some are almost but the next new model is only 12-18 months away
Also re-read my thread for the reason I am buying a D300 first. People assume to much, assume that others are changing system as they are either hoping to get better pictures or assuming that they are leaving because their "Technical Skills Suck".
George Lazarette wrote:
Perhaps, in the case of some people, with few lenses, flashguns, and other attachments (and stacks of cash) changing systems is not a big deal. For others it would be, and I am surprised some people are prepared to squander thousands on a complete new set up for what in some cases is going to make damn-all difference.
G
I guess that in that first sentence, (paranoia maybe), you are referring to me. I am not humouring you by making a comment about that.Perhaps, in the case of some people, with few lenses, flashguns, and other attachments (and stacks of cash) changing systems is not a big deal. For others it would be, and I am surprised some people are prepared to squander thousands on a complete new set up for what in some cases is going to make damn-all difference.
G
Thing is with Pentax users is that I think certain ones (no names mentioned) are so against anyone changing systems and they will make up any rubbish to prevent them from leaving.
Imagine this, if I was in a Vauxhall members club for 10 years and wanted to buy into a different make say Saab or Subaru, do you think that the Vauxhall club would get all petty and defend their car make as much as the Pentax users do???
Oh and by the way, I used those vauxhall and saab as an example and not saying that saab were more superior in any way the same way I am not saying that Nikon is superior to Pentax.
All I am mereley doing is switching from Pentax to Nikon. It is a decision I have made for my business and business growth. Also just to clarify, I am not changing systems to improve my photography; I am buying a D300 first then will look into a FX at a later date - sometime in the new year. This is a decision I have made to further my career in photography. I will still own a K20 for a few months, maybe longer, still not sure about that. This will mean that I will have 2 systems.
I hope this long reply explains a bit more.
Oh and apologies for not replying sooner, I had a shoot first thing this morning.
Paul
Comment by paullucas posted on K20D versus Nikon D300 at 15/07/2009 - 11:38
Tell you what, you abandon your own thread, we'll all get on as happy as Larry and pretend that this never happened, how does that sound?