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'Nuff not said!
That should read 'Not 'nuff said'

Comment by Mannesty posted on I've a white balance problem - any ideas? at 05/04/2008 - 16:37

Mannesty
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wow...
talk about "over-thinking" the subject.
I'm not the brightest bulb on the christmas tree, and when it comes to math, I'm pretty much "dumb-as-a-stump".
I've never had these kinds of problems shooting under flourecent or mixed lights.
Just set everything to manual (including color balance) meter carefully, and shoot!
In practice, I lose more shots on auto, than manual.
In practice, I seldom if ever see that much difference between two consecutive frames.
In reality, I'd grab the one I felt was better tune it up, trash the other and move on.
'nuff said.

Comment by Mannesty posted on I've a white balance problem - any ideas? at 05/04/2008 - 16:16

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amilner wrote:
Of course as there is mixed lighting (as in this case) and one of the sources is flickering then the overall colour balance would also be flickering because the mix of the two sources would be changing...
Good point. Thanks.
I guess that this lighting scenario would need a white reference (white card or clothing) in every shot. Difficult.

Comment by Mannesty posted on I've a white balance problem - any ideas? at 05/04/2008 - 15:57

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Mannesty wrote:
There is a simple solution to this problem. Take a photographer's white/grey card with you and set the WB manually before the event. A better solution is the Expodisc (or is it Expodisk).
Pentaxian450 is suggesting that the colour temperature with florescent lights is not constant. If that's correct then the solution is not as simple as you suggest. I'm not sure it is correct, though.
He is quite correct. Tungsten lighting does not have time to 'turn off' when the current drops to zero, which it does 100 times a second if the ac supply frequency is 50Hz. 120 times a second if it's 60 Hz.
Flourescent lighting however does actually turn off, but the eyes can't percieve this 'flickering' when they are trying to resolve an image, but the human brain can in the following scenario.

Some people who use CRT computer screens in a flourescent lighting environment suffer headaches. Quite often, a CRT/computer screen is refreshed at 60Hz. The mains ac frequency in UK is 50Hz. The difference between the flourescent lights (50Hz) and the screen refresh (60Hz) causes the screen to appear to flicker, or beat, at 10Hz. A frequency that some people can't handle, hence the headache (the solution is to change the refresh rate to 70Hz or higher).

A camera however can quite easily take an accurate WB reading as long as an appropriate shutter speed is selected to avoid this 'dead zone' in flourescent lighting.

1 second = 1000 milliseconds, 50HZ = 1000/50 = 20 milliseconds or 1/50 seconds. Choose a shutter speed of 1/50th or slower, and you'll not have a much of a problem getting an accurate WB setting. In 1/50th of a second, UK mains supply has gone from 0 - max - 0 - min - 0. The camera, in WB terms, will record the average.

I'll leave you US users to do the maths for 60Hz supplies.

Of course, at the time an image is recorded, possibly using a faster shutter speed, the temparature of the light may well be different to that which has been used as WB but hey, that's a photographer's lot, use flash.

Comment by Mannesty posted on I've a white balance problem - any ideas? at 05/04/2008 - 15:47

Mannesty
There is a simple solution to this problem. Take a photographer's white/grey card with you and set the WB manually before the event. A better solution is the Expodisc (or is it Expodisk).

Any 'thinking' camera is bound to get it wrong sometimes. Using a known white subject eliminates the problem.

Comment by Mannesty posted on I've a white balance problem - any ideas? at 05/04/2008 - 14:37

Mannesty
Strewth, awesome selection criteria. I'm impressed. . . and not easily I might add. . . but I still don't have a mac.

Comment by Mannesty posted on Is there a way to sort photos by EXIF data? at 31/03/2008 - 20:54

Mannesty
Wicked. I don't have a mac though

Comment by Mannesty posted on Is there a way to sort photos by EXIF data? at 31/03/2008 - 19:21

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in aperture, I just created a new smart album, selected (under the (+) menu to sort images by exif data, then chose shutter speeds and every image in my library with a shutter speed of one second or longer appeared in the new album.
Got a Mac?
Don,

Lightroom can select by most of the commonly used EXIF fields including shutter speed, aperture etc. Can Aperture show you the images shot with a particular lens set to a particular focal length? Lightroom can't do that . . . yet.

Comment by Mannesty posted on Is there a way to sort photos by EXIF data? at 31/03/2008 - 19:15

Mannesty
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Mannesty wrote:
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I haven't found a way to browse by focal length yet....

Possibly by inputting it into the 'title' or 'caption' fields, or in the IPTC fields. then searching on that.

I've jsut checked and can't get lightroom to 'find' 18mm in any text field. i know lots of my images are at 18mm and it shows in the file header info, but I can't find only those images taken at 18mm.
So, you haven't found a way to do it either

It can be done by using Keyword Tags, but that's a lot of work . . . unless the process could be automated somehow.

Comment by Mannesty posted on Is there a way to sort photos by EXIF data? at 31/03/2008 - 18:12

Mannesty
Lightroom's metadata browser facilitates searches by Camera, Lens, File type, Aperture, Shutter speed, ISO setting, Date, Location, Creator, and each of 5 coloured labels.

I haven't found a way to browse by focal length yet.

Sadly, Sigma lenses are logged as just that, 'Sigma'.
Pentax K,M lenses listed as 'K,M Lens'.
Pentax A, listed as 'A Series Lens'.
SMCP F lenses and newer are recorded correctly.

Comment by Mannesty posted on Is there a way to sort photos by EXIF data? at 31/03/2008 - 17:46

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