A powerful LED Lenser torch gives plenty of light to focus by.

Let's call it a day on this one.

A robust discussion, but let's not fall into criticism of the person, rather argue against the argument or the opinion. And I don't mean anyone specifically when I say that, I'm just making the point that when it descends into personalities rather than a discussion then it goes too far.

"Authority" tends to defend itself vigorously when challenged, it's probably the nature of the beast. But it is a reflection of society and how we all interact, and ultimately laws and regulations that do not have respect and agreement will fail. Then an entire society breaks the law, and it is no longer law. We all know this when we fail to do our two hours archery practice every Sunday morning...

The other problem associated with this is that decisions are made by experts, who naturally see the world from the perspective of their own speciality. So Doctors see the world from a traditional medicine viewpoint and tend to reject alternatives, Solicitors no doubt see the world from a legal standpoint, and so on. The trouble is when they subscribe to the current paradigm, which later may be proved to be quite wrong.

Experts have the ability to be very spectacularly wrong sometimes.

That's what I did actually, so I'll check that again in case I hit the wrong button by mistake!

Not in the UK Stefan, although it may be wise to ask permission for commercial use. Just think of all those wonderful candid photos that are so famous - the sailor kissing the girl, the Vietnamese girl, the youngster with the bottle of wine, the youngster in the water fountain from a fire hydrant....the list is long.

The law hasn't changed, but the guidelines issued to officers has.

I'm not aware that anyone is patronising you nass, as I said previously everyone is entitled to their opinion. I may not agree with you, or I may as the case may be, but I will defend your right to speak.

Please keep overt political statements out of it - offending comments removed.

P.S. As regards model release forms, these are needed when people are specifically photographed for commercial purposes, to avoid later problems. The fees paid and the uses agreed to are sorted upfront so there are no arguments later when the model suddenly becomes a multi-millionaire megastar.

This doesn't have anything to do with photographing flowers in a park, or even people becoming an incidental part of a landscape picture.