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Andrewk wrote:

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However, if I have a 300mm f/4 on an APS-C camera and a friend, at the same location, has a (approx) 450mm f/4 on his FF camera, we will both be able to fill the frame with the same image. The big difference between us is that he will have paid over ten grand for his 500mm f/4, but I'll have paid less than a grand for my 300mm f/4. I think I can see some advantage here in using APS-C for sports and wildlife.
WhatMcGregNi said is spot on. If you have a 300mm lens on an APS-C camera, It still is a 300mm lens , except that you take only 1.5 times less angle and it seems like it is more of a tele lens.
The image you have is contained in the 16Mp or 23Mp your APS-C
camera can do

Now if you had a FF camera, It would see the same image but it has a 1.5 times greater angle and because it has to have about 43Mpixels, when to go to Lightroom or a similar program, you then crop it to the 16Mpl area and you have exactly the same image with the same quality as your APS-C camera. However you have the option to have if you just leave it as it is , to see more on your picture.
Facit: You need not a 450mm lens, You don't loose anything, but you need a lens that covers full frame.

The end effect is, your Rabbit or wild chicken will with the same lens have the same resolution on FF or APS-c.

Regards, Horst

Comment by Horst posted on Why bother? at 20/07/2014 - 00:13

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Horst,
It would seem that your grasp of English is not complete, you have been misinterpreting, mis-quoting, and taking comment out of context, and treating other members as if they are weak-minded.

You are correct that this this discussion will not get anyone any further as you seem to be incapable of taking any other valid point from anyone else if it disagrees with your point of view.

You really ought to re-read the whole thread, it would save you lots of typing.
At first when I read that drivel, I thought of answering it. but I don't think it is worth the effort.

Regards, Horst

Comment by Horst posted on Why bother? at 18/07/2014 - 11:36

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Looks to me like your just arguing for the sake of it
What I say is what I believe. Its not just for the sake of arguing.

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You think a Pentax FF would be about 2K, well a K5II is currently about £700ish which means a FF would be about 2 1/2 times the cost,
The 2K are in Dollars. this i would say is the price around the world, except England of course. Everything seems to be about twice as much as in the USA, HongKong, Australia and for example Japan.
2000 Dollars are about 1090GBP. if you bought it here in Australia or the rest of the World.

The enormous price in GB is of not very much concern. the UK is only as small part of the whole. It is your problem.

I can not see Pentax or any other manufacturer having sleepless nights about the English prices. After all they still sell in the UK too

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which for most Pentax owners is prohibitive.
Are you trying to say, no Pentax owners could afford a FF ?
Or are you saying, A K5II or similar is the poor man's Nikon or Canons FF?

The reason why there are no Pentax FF cameras on this forum, is because Pentax doesn't make one.!!

There are Pentax owners on this forum with Pentax 645 cameras. They are not cheap, but they still sell , even in the UK.

However this whole discussion does not get us any further, since your and my opinion are to far apart.

Regards, Horst

Comment by Horst posted on Why bother? at 17/07/2014 - 15:23

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If you really want a FF camera why not go and buy your Leica M9? or is it because the price is prohibitive?
If that is so then I will rest my case, which is that most of the Pentax users here have K5's and older because they are happy with them and can't afford the extra cash outlay.
Firstly is is not my Leica (I wish it was.)

How do you know, all K5 and older Pentax users are cpompletly happy and would not invest in a FF camera

Of course for me the price of a Leica M9 is prohibitive. 9000 Dollars is a fair bit.
Leica is a boutique camera, Pentax, Nikon and Canon are not. neither are any of the other SLR camera brands.
All I said, I have seen what a full frame ( with 24Mp , same as the K3) can do.

However I can not believe that a FF Pentax would be anywhere near this much.
On the contrary, I think with the competition Pentax has to try and compete with, I would say about 2 Grand would be a fair figure.
The prices of the sensors are not going up in time, they are going down.

Pentax have always been price competitive. Why should this change suddenly?

I think the big deal about trying to defend the APS-C size is just sour grapes, because the worry about not having lenses which will work with FF.

People bought lenses for APS-C , will in time also buy new DA lenses for full frame.

I am not a rich person. I bought my K5 with saved up coins. It takes a while, but it works.

I am happy to save for a FF the same way.

If a Pentax FF actually comes to fruition. you can easily start of with quite inexpensive F and FA lenses. there is no need to buy a whole set of the latest FF lenses.

One big disadvantage with the APS-C only lenses ist hat they can not be used on film cameras.

Regards, Horst

Comment by Horst posted on Why bother? at 17/07/2014 - 10:28

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For most Pentax owners I can't imagine there will be an issue as to whether the lens is a "full-Frame" or a "cropped" version, as they are extremely unlikely to bother buying a "full-Frame" camera due to the expected price. if and when it arrives.
There is as much chance of them selling up and purchasing another brand instead.
this comment does not make a lot of sense to me.
If Pentax brings out a FF Camera and no Pentax owner will buy it (except of me), then what is the point.
Or are you saying, only non Pentax owners will buy it.
Once it is released and you'll see the images I can take, due to the higher pixel count , better wide angle performance etc., you may change your mind. I also have a K5, but I have seen pictures made with the Leica M9 b&W and colour. It blows you away.

How do you know, what the final price of a Pentax FF will be. Pentax also have to compete with the other sellers. That sets the price.

Most of the research in software has already been done. even if the processor used may be different, this days with crosssassembling from one to the other processor, the actual work is minimal.
The longest part of it is the debugging.

Bring on FF.

Regards, Horst

Comment by Horst posted on Why bother? at 17/07/2014 - 01:50

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Sounds a pretty bad deal to me. It looks like its all one way (Rico's).
Why would anybody put any images on to this side?

The crap with the "technical reason" tops it.
Sounds like Ned Kelly moved to Japan.

Regards, Horst

Comment by Horst posted on Please Sort It Out at 14/07/2014 - 14:54

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Hi, I am looking for an adaptor for AG1 Flash bulbs.

This are the Bulbs with out a real socket, but have just 2 bend wires around a quenched glass bottom.

The adaptors push in to the larger sockets AG3 i think.

I will pay if you are in Europe (including GB) with my german bank account. so there is no problems with payment.

Kind regards, Horst

Comment by Horst posted on AG1 Flash bulb adaptor at 12/07/2014 - 09:32

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Mudge wrote:

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Any site I have been on with a Forum attracts people who want to stir up things, just for the sake of it! Actually, they cannot help themselves! And even sites without a formal Forum still attracts the knockers!
When members who had send many posts and have been quite a long time contributing to this site are complaining or unhappy with certain aspects,
it does.t mean they are stirrers or knockers. If they where, they would have done this right at the start of their membership.

If someone has to say something which you don't like, either answer or
don't. You are not forced to do anything.

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Let's just keep to producing and posting pictures (which speak a thousand words!) and do less chating! It's a photography site, not a Debating Society!
Agreed, it is a photography site but also a forum. If you just want to
produce pictures and no comments, why did you bother a.) reading this thread and b.) commenting.

Here is one definition of a forum:

A safety-valve for letting out superfluous air. _E. g._, "Let the Forum always be open to the people, and let the treasury always be open to us."--From Titus Livy's _Psychology of the First Contractor_.

Regards, Horst

Comment by Horst posted on Please Sort It Out at 05/07/2014 - 00:51

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I believe MattyH, Dougf8, Gamka, Cardiff Gareth have all been banned. Maybe some more.
Was it something they said?

Regards, Horst

Comment by Horst posted on Please Sort It Out at 04/07/2014 - 04:03

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In addition to my normal camera,I have an X-5 for taking pictures for Ebay sales and for copying documents. I also leave it in the car, so whenever I see something interesting I have a camera with me.
For the Ebay pictures I zoom to a longer focal length to get a better perspective and for normal shooting I zoom always.

Regards, Horst

Comment by Horst posted on Do You Zoom? at 03/07/2014 - 13:30

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