You know what they say if you have to ask the price you can`t afford it.

It`s a measurement for you know what.:

Whens the end of the world: it`s going to stop raining friday hope to get out on the bike for an hour or two, so it better not end till friday afternoon or there will be hell to play.

I would be happy if they replaced the camera raw in elements with the one from lightroom, as you can open editor or organizer separately they can leave the organizer in. I dont need anything as powerfull as the full version of photoshop, it would be wasted on me.
I think the catalog part of lightroom has spook me.
IMHO it would be all the enthusiastic photographer would need:.
I dont think for one moment adobe would bring it out, it just might fly off the shelfs to the detriment of the other two products.
Having spent some time trying elements 11 i think it is a worthwhile upgrade and might just settle for that ,and get back to why i bought the camera for, taking pictures.
Cheers
Dave

Peter
Have downloaded 30day trial of elements 11, looks like the upgrade might just be worth the money they appear to have done a lot of work on it.
Cheers
Dave

Still raining

Sorry McgregNi.
Sounds like a foreign language.
I download to windows picture library, rename the folder say ZOO RAW 2, then when i have worked on the raw files i save them as a tiff and move them to there own folder named wait for it ZOO 2.
This means it is my second visite to the zoo, i also so have two other folders called ZOO and RAW ZOO which i but all the other folders in to.
I also back them upto disc.
If i was a professional my be i would need a good catalog system, but then if i was a well paid professional i would employ some one to do it for me.
Smeggy says cataloging is pictures is all part of the photography pastime as is processing the images, i enjoy the processing, well what bit i can manage but the catalog part is like eating my christmass box of roses with the paper on.
But each to is own, ones man meat is another mans poison ETC.
The forum would be a boring place if we where all the same.
Cheers
Dave

If they can sell my photos there bloody miracle workers.

Well would you adam and eve it its raining again.
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Update
If i had £600 to spend John, i would put it in the BUY A K-5IIs BOTTLE.
Cheers
Dave