It couldn't be cropped further out. It could have been framed more to the right but that would have meant cutting off some of the crane on the left. The only other solutions would have been a wider lens or borrowing some of the plant to widen the street.

Yes, that is exactly what it is.

If I knew how to composite then I would. I need to speak to Axel another N'er.

I would add that the first shot was looking SE and the second shot looking due East. At sunset then for those parts of the sky to be ablaze was quite extraordinary.

Got any photos with that big 'ole Nikon of yours? Not here obviously.

Living in France and having seen the Tour pass close by a few times it really is a wonderful experience, even though what you see happens in seconds. You cannnot help but get into it and begin to appreciate the complexities involved. A campervan following the Tour would be a wonderful month spent.

Unfortunately it bypasses us this year. A time trial around the Lac de Vassivere has been long rumoured but never come about.

Darkskies could give you much more of an appreciation of what it is all about. It is magical.

This was a weird sky the other night. These are mammatus clouds, I have never seen them before. They appeared at the back end of a storm and then they disappeared. The whole event took just a few minutes and the clouds were moving pretty fast and at low light so not easy to photograph. I had no chance at all to photograph them as a decent landscape shot, they are just photographed from my garden. The whole sky was affected, a viewing experience that is impossible to capture in a photograph and it was truly breathtaking. I took some shots for the record and with a view to maybe using them as part of a composite image at some point, the sky being so unusual. The first is stitch, 14,000 pixels wide at full size, which gives me some options later on. The second is a single shot at 12mm. I am exhibiting these images in case anyone finds them meteorologically interesting. Critique though is pointless. I am also exhibiting them to demonstrate why 'Your Photos' section might usefully subdivided into those photos that are conducive of critique (such as my gloomy London architecturals) and those where critique is pointless but might be of of interest by dint of the subject matter. I think also with the first it demonstrates the serious limitation of 800pixels wide. It looks like nothing at that width, it looks rather more impressive at a width that fits more snugly the screens that most of us view it on.

Thanks for the continuing feedback and particularly to ChrisA for your detailed analysis. It's always good to get opinion from someone who doesn't like the images.

I agree about clumsy haloing in parts. These are a first attempt at the gothic/moody architectural and my pp skills are pretty limited. The nice thing about RAW is that it can be revisited when that improves.

The plane was there. I can slide sliders but my pixel manipulation skills are currently rubbish. There's no way I could have added the plane and made it look right.

Conversely, Tower Of Power 1, which I rather like, is much more faked in terms of the light. The light is how I saw it rather than what was there, so thank you dynamic range of K5 for that. There is some haloing there too and I need to work out how not to generate it.

All feedback is taken on board. Good, honest opinion, that's the way it should be.

Are Plasticallica headlining?

Glstonbarry!!! Love it. Tidy.