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Comment by Don posted on professional professional at 07/09/2011 - 20:32
Anvh wrote:
However you're not correct with meter to the right though, you actually need to over expose with the gray card to get the correct exposure so your meter is to far to the left in the histogram.
So you underexpose with a gray card not overexpose.
For the snow it might actually be good though that it underexpose with that 1/2 of a stop.
correct you are.... I'm a lil absent minded sometimes...lol! I forget sometimes that I set up some presets in aperture for processing my raw files then I just shoot out of habit, seldom having to deviate from what works...Don wrote:
true, but metering off something that is consistent is key, and the kodak grey card does result in the "meter to the right of the histogram" notion of image capture.... your RAW files are usually good.... that is my experience anyways....
Very true.true, but metering off something that is consistent is key, and the kodak grey card does result in the "meter to the right of the histogram" notion of image capture.... your RAW files are usually good.... that is my experience anyways....
However you're not correct with meter to the right though, you actually need to over expose with the gray card to get the correct exposure so your meter is to far to the left in the histogram.
So you underexpose with a gray card not overexpose.
For the snow it might actually be good though that it underexpose with that 1/2 of a stop.
Comment by Don posted on Settings/PP for shooting in snow at 07/09/2011 - 20:22
Anvh wrote:
This the instruction that's with the kodak grey cards these days.
Meter readings of the gray card should be adjusted as follows-
1) For subjects of normal reflectance increase the indicated exposure by 1/2 stop.
2) For light subjects use the indicated exposure; for very light subjects decrease exposure by 1/2 stop
3) If the subject is dark to very dark increase the indicated exposure by 1 to 1.5 stops
true, but metering off something that is consistent is key, and the kodak grey card does result in the "meter to the right of the histogram" notion of image capture.... your RAW files are usually good.... that is my experience anyways....Don wrote:
bring your Kodak grey card with you when shopping for glove liners.... find a nice thin pair of wool glove liners that happen to match as closely as possible, your grey card..... when out in the snow, take a spot meter reading off your glove liner and set your color balance while you're at it.....
Ah but the light meter doesn't measure for 18% grey though that the Kodak card is, the standard actually is 12.3%bring your Kodak grey card with you when shopping for glove liners.... find a nice thin pair of wool glove liners that happen to match as closely as possible, your grey card..... when out in the snow, take a spot meter reading off your glove liner and set your color balance while you're at it.....
This the instruction that's with the kodak grey cards these days.
Meter readings of the gray card should be adjusted as follows-
1) For subjects of normal reflectance increase the indicated exposure by 1/2 stop.
2) For light subjects use the indicated exposure; for very light subjects decrease exposure by 1/2 stop
3) If the subject is dark to very dark increase the indicated exposure by 1 to 1.5 stops
Comment by Don posted on Settings/PP for shooting in snow at 07/09/2011 - 19:14
nobody ever buys my "ART"....
but they pay me to shoot stuff....
but they pay me to shoot stuff....
Comment by Don posted on professional professional at 07/09/2011 - 19:05
buy some thin wool ( real wool) gloves to wear as liners for your regular gloves/mitts.... bring your Kodak grey card with you when shopping for glove liners.... find a nice thin pair of wool glove liners that happen to match as closely as possible, your grey card..... when out in the snow, take a spot meter reading off your glove liner and set your color balance while you're at it.....
I almost always have a scarf or mitts or toque in the "Right" color..... for exactly this reason.... but then I only shoot manual when the situation calls for precision....
(two benifits of wool? synthetics can give weird ir or uv color casts, and wool stays warm even when it gets wet...)
I almost always have a scarf or mitts or toque in the "Right" color..... for exactly this reason.... but then I only shoot manual when the situation calls for precision....
(two benifits of wool? synthetics can give weird ir or uv color casts, and wool stays warm even when it gets wet...)
Comment by Don posted on Settings/PP for shooting in snow at 07/09/2011 - 18:59
jeff0000 wrote:
are you a man or a mouse
show me the cheese lol
ALL North American men come pre-neutered, thanx alot womens lib.....are you a man or a mouse
show me the cheese lol
Comment by Don posted on professional professional at 07/09/2011 - 16:33
further to my other post.... Honda Motorcycles set out to build a motorcycle for the North American Market.
After much research, exhaustive polling and designed from the ground up, this is what the American market asked for:
link
Ugliest thing ever to be called a motorcycle. Barely sold any. an embarrassment.
What did sell well in American markets?
this sells well:
link
so the biggest scooter sells better than the motorcycle that looks like a scooter....
So anybody with half a brain knows you don't try to make what the North Americans ask for.
you take whatever you're making and try to convince them it's what they want...
After much research, exhaustive polling and designed from the ground up, this is what the American market asked for:
link
Ugliest thing ever to be called a motorcycle. Barely sold any. an embarrassment.
What did sell well in American markets?
this sells well:
link
so the biggest scooter sells better than the motorcycle that looks like a scooter....
So anybody with half a brain knows you don't try to make what the North Americans ask for.
you take whatever you're making and try to convince them it's what they want...
Comment by Don posted on Hands-On Q in AP at 07/09/2011 - 16:25
Mike-P wrote:
I'm married, so I can't say or I'll get beaten again....Don wrote:
beats me...
Who does?beats me...
Comment by Don posted on professional professional at 07/09/2011 - 16:07
The trouble with North American markets is this...
When asked what they want, they all say they want the biggest and best of everything.....
When you look at what they bought?
Well, Walmart is the biggest seller by a HUGE margin...
So why would anybody expect the Q to look good to, or be well received by, the North American Market?
I think some, here illustrate my point very well.
But fortunately, North America is not the ONLY market.
If the Q sells well in Asian markets (I would love to see how well it is accepted by the new generation of Chinese upper middle class consumers).... it is good for the company and there will be new d-slrs on these shores sooner or later...
When asked what they want, they all say they want the biggest and best of everything.....
When you look at what they bought?
Well, Walmart is the biggest seller by a HUGE margin...
So why would anybody expect the Q to look good to, or be well received by, the North American Market?
I think some, here illustrate my point very well.
But fortunately, North America is not the ONLY market.
If the Q sells well in Asian markets (I would love to see how well it is accepted by the new generation of Chinese upper middle class consumers).... it is good for the company and there will be new d-slrs on these shores sooner or later...
Comment by Don posted on Hands-On Q in AP at 07/09/2011 - 16:03
ps:
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Comment by Don posted on Which One Kr or K10d at 07/09/2011 - 15:56
Whenever I have sold one of my images to the press I always wonder why that one???
The image that is technically & compositionally the best in a set never seems to get chosen by picture desks. Yet the one I think least off will...
this was one of his ideas: