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Comment by Don posted on Lens For Sale - Sold - Bought Again at 12/07/2011 - 23:57
Anvh wrote:
Besides that, when i'll go out shooting all day how many batteries will i need with an evil camera and how many with a DSLR... how much will those extra batteries cost me.
right now a set of rechargable nickle metalhydrates costs about the same as two sets of name brand alkalines cost six years ago... but can be recharged 100 times..Don wrote:
the question is... (and the market will answer); "How much does it cost?"
Well EVIL have an EVF, how much does that cost?the question is... (and the market will answer); "How much does it cost?"
Besides that, when i'll go out shooting all day how many batteries will i need with an evil camera and how many with a DSLR... how much will those extra batteries cost me.
apples retina display for the iphone is close to the cost of the glass in the pentaprism of your camera. optical glass is expensive....
Comment by Don posted on How long before DSLRs become extinct? at 12/07/2011 - 23:44
Anvh wrote:
Yeah because i don't see EVIL as an DSLR replacement for photography.
It's a bit like people saying that those tablets things will replace books and magazines. I think they might though but surely not now, i just can't look at those LCD screen for long while reading because they tire my eyes while i read to relax...
I must say those e-books are quite nice to read though, they just need colour but still... there is something about having a book in your hands though and because of that books will be around for quite a while just like SLR camera's.
say that when the environmental lobbiests get there way and cutting down a tree to make paper to print a book winds up costing so much, the consumer has to pay $1000.00 retail for a 32 page comic book!Don wrote:
I dare ask... would you be shooting with Pentax or Nikon or Canon d-slrs at all if the Panasonic g series Evil had an aps-c or ff 35mm sensor?
Was that a question for me?I dare ask... would you be shooting with Pentax or Nikon or Canon d-slrs at all if the Panasonic g series Evil had an aps-c or ff 35mm sensor?
Yeah because i don't see EVIL as an DSLR replacement for photography.
It's a bit like people saying that those tablets things will replace books and magazines. I think they might though but surely not now, i just can't look at those LCD screen for long while reading because they tire my eyes while i read to relax...
I must say those e-books are quite nice to read though, they just need colour but still... there is something about having a book in your hands though and because of that books will be around for quite a while just like SLR camera's.
Comment by Don posted on How long before DSLRs become extinct? at 12/07/2011 - 23:38
Anvh wrote:
See my comments above Don, those things will surely improve but they will always be there though and so a DSLR will be better at them.
For photography i don't see at what an EVIL is better than a DSLR.
And some problems you name can also be solved, also who knows what they can do over some years.
I don't think it's far fetch that they can make a surface reflective or translucent by running a current through it and there are already LCD shutters so a DSLR can also be make fully electronical but keeping the mirror and optical viewfinder.
the question is... (and the market will answer); "How much does it cost?"See my comments above Don, those things will surely improve but they will always be there though and so a DSLR will be better at them.
For photography i don't see at what an EVIL is better than a DSLR.
And some problems you name can also be solved, also who knows what they can do over some years.
I don't think it's far fetch that they can make a surface reflective or translucent by running a current through it and there are already LCD shutters so a DSLR can also be make fully electronical but keeping the mirror and optical viewfinder.
vhs did not beat betamax on quality...
and dvd did not beat vhs on durability...
and blue ray was f'd before it ever got started by direct downloads...
you cannot ever discount the tech that gives you the best combination of ease of use and cost vs quality...
Comment by Don posted on How long before DSLRs become extinct? at 12/07/2011 - 23:33
I dare ask... would you be shooting with Pentax or Nikon or Canon d-slrs at all if the Panasonic g series Evil had an aps-c or ff 35mm sensor?
Comment by Don posted on How long before DSLRs become extinct? at 12/07/2011 - 23:19
Anvh wrote:
If a DSLR doesn't use his mirror so live view then it's the same as a EVIL camera right or am i missing the point?
take the mirror, mechanical shutter and pentaprism out, save money while increasing reliability.... your prism is blacked out while the mirror is up, vibrations from mirror slap, focussing in dim light, all issues addressed by an evf and or live view... Don wrote:
but yeah, if a kmount evil comes, I will buy... if not, I may switch camcorders to the sony nex vg10 series and just buy an adaptor for my Pentax glass.... it may be some time before I buy another pentax d-slr.... if ever.
But why must it be EVIL?but yeah, if a kmount evil comes, I will buy... if not, I may switch camcorders to the sony nex vg10 series and just buy an adaptor for my Pentax glass.... it may be some time before I buy another pentax d-slr.... if ever.
If a DSLR doesn't use his mirror so live view then it's the same as a EVIL camera right or am i missing the point?
Battery and heat issues and even evf quality are all issues being addressed... soon Evil class will surpass slr design, just as surely as digital surpassed film... unavoidable...
so if you could get k5 image quality, cinema quality video, in a less expensive camera body.... why bother with a d-slr at that point? Panasonic has already released 4/3 class evils that surpass many d-slrs af performance, casio locked down the highspeed shutter.... Fuji has a optical/ lcd hybrid rangefinder.... how long do you think it will take for one camera to incorporate enough features to lay waste to the k5?
it may not be for everybody, but there is a new breed of multimedia shooters out there that want one body that gives them the best of both thier video camcorders and D-slrs... and I believe it is coming. If you don't believe me, ask some of the other regulars here how long I was spewing off (in the face of unbelievers) about video capable d-slrs before everybody wound up buying them....
Comment by Don posted on How long before DSLRs become extinct? at 12/07/2011 - 23:08
Jonathan-Mac wrote:
There´s very, very little in the way, technology-wise, of getting rid of DSLRs and replacing them with mirrorless cameras. The biggest problem is that C & N have far too much invested in their current systems to want to change to a new one. The lens line-ups are massive, and all designed for DSLRs.
So far, only Samsung are taking lenses and cameras seriously in the EVIL market, but they´re held back by lack of promotion & not being taken seriously by photographers (rightly or wrongly). Sony are only interested in getting people with P&S cameras to buy them. Oly & Pana are only just beginning to come out with serious lenses, but most of them cost double what they should, and the small size of 4/3 will never be overcome.
The way is wide open for a mirrorless camera with an APS-C sensor, good lenses and a photographer-oriented design (buttons, ergonomics, advanced features). There´s no need for a mirrorless camera to be smaller, if that means is less comfortable to use. Pentax are ideally placed to bring it to the market, but instead seem determined to be left behind, wasting money on this Q nonsense. Development costs would rapidly be paid off by savings in exactly-manufactured & expensive mirror-boxes & penta-mirrors / -prisms. AF problems would be a thing of the past.
I agree with most of what you say except... the Q being non-sense. I think it is a fine camera that will target both the upscale p&s shooters and possibly some 4/3's buyers looking for small sized cameras.... it will find it's niche and be well liked by those that can afford it.There´s very, very little in the way, technology-wise, of getting rid of DSLRs and replacing them with mirrorless cameras. The biggest problem is that C & N have far too much invested in their current systems to want to change to a new one. The lens line-ups are massive, and all designed for DSLRs.
So far, only Samsung are taking lenses and cameras seriously in the EVIL market, but they´re held back by lack of promotion & not being taken seriously by photographers (rightly or wrongly). Sony are only interested in getting people with P&S cameras to buy them. Oly & Pana are only just beginning to come out with serious lenses, but most of them cost double what they should, and the small size of 4/3 will never be overcome.
The way is wide open for a mirrorless camera with an APS-C sensor, good lenses and a photographer-oriented design (buttons, ergonomics, advanced features). There´s no need for a mirrorless camera to be smaller, if that means is less comfortable to use. Pentax are ideally placed to bring it to the market, but instead seem determined to be left behind, wasting money on this Q nonsense. Development costs would rapidly be paid off by savings in exactly-manufactured & expensive mirror-boxes & penta-mirrors / -prisms. AF problems would be a thing of the past.
but yeah, if a kmount evil comes, I will buy... if not, I may switch camcorders to the sony nex vg10 series and just buy an adaptor for my Pentax glass.... it may be some time before I buy another pentax d-slr.... if ever.
Comment by Don posted on How long before DSLRs become extinct? at 12/07/2011 - 22:24
gps support and ???????? prolly nothing...
Comment by Don posted on K-5 Firmware 1.11 (and K-r) at 12/07/2011 - 22:09
I don't sell. I wear them out.
I have given a few things away...no regrets though..
I guess I have a mind like a steel trap (may be a little rusted) but I usually make up my mind once, and don't change it easily....
Like the old joke:
Aging wife: "How come you never say you love me?"
Aging Husband: "Didn't I tell you I loved you when I proposed?"
Wife :"yes but that was over forty years ago!"
Husband "That is right, and if I ever change my mind... I'll let you know."
I have given a few things away...no regrets though..
I guess I have a mind like a steel trap (may be a little rusted) but I usually make up my mind once, and don't change it easily....
Like the old joke:
Aging wife: "How come you never say you love me?"
Aging Husband: "Didn't I tell you I loved you when I proposed?"
Wife :"yes but that was over forty years ago!"
Husband "That is right, and if I ever change my mind... I'll let you know."
Comment by Don posted on Lens For Sale - Sold - Bought Again at 12/07/2011 - 20:04
I hope Pentax brings an aps-c sized sensor in a Q styled body... as long as they keep the kmount, i would not care if it was a little thicker than other competitors models.
speaking of Q, you gotta see this:
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speaking of Q, you gotta see this:
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Comment by Don posted on How long before DSLRs become extinct? at 12/07/2011 - 17:51
the one i regret selling and currently chasing....is FA43. I've sold it to finance fa31, but turned out that i liked FA43 more...