K5IIs arrived safe and sound, packed in the dreaded exploding polystyrene bomblets lol
Great communication.
Thank you!
I now have a brace of the best crop sensor bodies ever made

That was a serious point! If there was some other switch I wouldn't have to attach a battery grip just to facilitate this.
As for this: pwahaha. Please no. not. the. moderators.
Looking forward to another English lesson... Once my ban is over

You've obviously never tried shooting with the body upside down, I do this often to get the flash aiming the way I want.
I was lumping your comment in with other 'never satisfied' comments, at which point it just comes across as whinging. Just because you don't see a use for it, doesn't make it a gimmick.
I can't see a use for it in the context of this thread, unless you want a selfie with a spider Still doesn't make it a gimmick.

Ha ha.
Well, one was negative whinging, and the other was positive and thankful for a bit of imagination in the design dept.

This is a really negative! It's a useful feature; a pragmatic use of hardware switching. If you don't like it don't use it.

Either camera will be fine.
An absolute must for macro is an aperture ring. Then you have all manner of extension devices at your disposal. I don't think you can go wrong with any proper macro lens (as opposed to a zoom with macro written on it), but I would say, go for a 1:1, anything less than full macro will be frustrating.
I routinely go down to 25:1 (1:25? - 1mm showing in the viewfinder).
It's intoxicating, a whole new world down there

Scrap that. Found it!

Thanks guys I'll ask about K20
Reso, I can't find that camera, can you send me a link please?

My friend has a budget of 'around' £250 (maybe more), to get her husband back into the game with his old Pentax lenses.
Any suggestions?

I have the IIs and bought a K3 as second body. The 3's file sizes were an unnecessary burden on my system and the images were demonstrably softer. I did lots of quite scientific tests and real world tests and the K5IIs was significantly sharper in all scenarios even when giving the 3 some advantages like using live view zoomed in for focus and seeing if resizing down to K5 size helped.
The K3 was better at locking on to aircraft but that was the only time I noticed an improvement. I didn't notice it hunting ever.
For weddings I couldn't have risked the performance drop of the 3 in the dark and sold it after about 2 weeks.
For me, doing a lot of macro and low light stuff, the K5IIs has not been bettered in APS-c.