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Comment by cabstar posted on WTB K100D / K100D Super + DAL 18-55 Kit Lens at 20/04/2012 - 15:34
eenymac wrote:
The security and police, reacting to knee-jerk media assumptions which are then pushed onto the public as scare stories, need to be seen to be doing something, even if it is baseless in law and unsupported by any official legislation. The guilt (or lack of) becomes a secondary issue to the perception of implied wrongdoing in the public's mind. Simple media conditioning! I have worked in the private and corporate security industry for most of my working life, and can say without any doubt at all that these trends for targeting photographers were instigated by the media, without any factual evidence to back them up.
Sorry but if security & police officers & PCSO's didnt get these situations so wring there would be no story for the 'journos' to report.cabstar wrote:
does that include photo journalists too???
I think you will find it was unknowledgeable security & police officers that caused all this confusion, not journalists or newspapers..
It was the very sensationalist media the journo's work for that propagated these ridiculous assumptions about people taking photographs, which was then cascaded down to the security industry and police to follow up. All baseless and knee-jerk reactions, as with most media silliness these days. does that include photo journalists too???
I think you will find it was unknowledgeable security & police officers that caused all this confusion, not journalists or newspapers..
The security and police, reacting to knee-jerk media assumptions which are then pushed onto the public as scare stories, need to be seen to be doing something, even if it is baseless in law and unsupported by any official legislation. The guilt (or lack of) becomes a secondary issue to the perception of implied wrongdoing in the public's mind. Simple media conditioning! I have worked in the private and corporate security industry for most of my working life, and can say without any doubt at all that these trends for targeting photographers were instigated by the media, without any factual evidence to back them up.
In my adult years I have to say I have met more unskilled, unintelligent security staff than any other profession.
I have also worked in media for a long time & have yet to come across this media conditioning you speak off, what I think you will find is a huge number of people who interpret the English language in a totally different manner to the rest of the English speaking population...
If you could show me a piece of written work which has made up one of these stories I would be grateful if you could show me it, as I have not seen any yet myself & I am sure I would have been mae aware of it by now...
Comment by cabstar posted on A pleasant afternoon:spoiled at 19/04/2012 - 17:25
Seller should do a refund so he gets his PayPal fees back, pos doesn't realise this hence offering to refund less...
Comment by cabstar posted on advice needed at 19/04/2012 - 14:19
does that include photo journalists too???
I think you will find it was unknowledgeable security & police officers that caused all this confusion, not journalists or newspapers..
I think you will find it was unknowledgeable security & police officers that caused all this confusion, not journalists or newspapers..
Comment by cabstar posted on A pleasant afternoon:spoiled at 17/04/2012 - 22:57
alan S wrote:
As long as Pentax/Ricoh realise that if the price/quality doesn't match then consumers will look at the third party options and I'm sure the likes of Sigma and Tamrom will be watching the markets.
Alan
This market has always been there... I am sure Tamron & Sigma will also be looking at price increases too...As long as Pentax/Ricoh realise that if the price/quality doesn't match then consumers will look at the third party options and I'm sure the likes of Sigma and Tamrom will be watching the markets.
Alan
Comment by cabstar posted on Pentax/Ricoh putting prices up at 17/04/2012 - 17:52
Why do they have to explain their price increases???
They set the price they want or need for their business to be successful, the customer then decides whether to buy or not. On a purely business point of view, no business puts up prices in a very competitive market, particularly technology markets without considering the consequences.
I am sure Pentax will have taken into account the market equilibrium price along with the supply & demand curves.
Price setting is really difficult in business & I am sure Pentax will have plenty of experts working behind the scenes which takes all this into account..
They set the price they want or need for their business to be successful, the customer then decides whether to buy or not. On a purely business point of view, no business puts up prices in a very competitive market, particularly technology markets without considering the consequences.
I am sure Pentax will have taken into account the market equilibrium price along with the supply & demand curves.
Price setting is really difficult in business & I am sure Pentax will have plenty of experts working behind the scenes which takes all this into account..
Comment by cabstar posted on Pentax/Ricoh putting prices up at 17/04/2012 - 17:38
johnriley wrote:
How is winding people up more a good thing?
I find it self satisfying, the more you let these guys get to you the more they will do it. Most security guards are bored of their job & see moments like this to brighten up a very dull day. Getting into an argument with these people just escalates the problem for both sides, when you ignore them they don't know how to respond...How is winding people up more a good thing?
Comment by cabstar posted on A pleasant afternoon:spoiled at 17/04/2012 - 14:02
Wow, you people actually communicate back to these idiots??? I prefer to just ignore them, it winds them up even more...
Comment by cabstar posted on A pleasant afternoon:spoiled at 17/04/2012 - 12:36
I think the main reason for the price increases is due to the rising cost of materials, look how valuable scrap metal is at the moment, this is due to the closures of many steelworks, forcing the price up, same with gold we have all seen the we buy your gold adverts, gold is used in PCB's & the biggest increase is fuel, not just petrol, but gas, electricity etc & thats before we even talk about earthquakes or floods around Asia.
Combine all these events & companies like Pentax have no option but to increase prices, look at how the hard drive industry has had to deal with the floods & the affect this has had on prices.
Price increases are always followed by price cuts, this happens time & time again, it was only a couple of years ago the DA* 50-135mm & the DA* 16-50mm had massive increases and are now nearly back to where they where before.
Combine all these events & companies like Pentax have no option but to increase prices, look at how the hard drive industry has had to deal with the floods & the affect this has had on prices.
Price increases are always followed by price cuts, this happens time & time again, it was only a couple of years ago the DA* 50-135mm & the DA* 16-50mm had massive increases and are now nearly back to where they where before.
Comment by cabstar posted on Pentax/Ricoh putting prices up at 17/04/2012 - 12:05
Don wrote:
Are you sure they have a symbiotic relationship???ChrisA wrote:
I'm not convinced by this 'loss leader' argument at all - rapid depreciation doesn't mean people don't buy new expensive gear - just look at the car industry.
actually third party lens makers have a symbiotic relationship to the camera makers and Pentax has a solid history of designing lenses... take the 10-17 mm fisheye for example... so how many patents get exchanged, or licensed out to maker of third party lenses? my guess is the lensmakers will wind up raising prices as well...I'm not convinced by this 'loss leader' argument at all - rapid depreciation doesn't mean people don't buy new expensive gear - just look at the car industry.
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Sigma & Tamron have been well known for reengineering mounts & other technologies in the past I am sure they will carry on in the future much to the annoynace of camera manufacturers
Comment by cabstar posted on Pentax/Ricoh putting prices up at 16/04/2012 - 11:57
