It's only your pinky that is more free but the rest of your fingers are still very good on the grip so if you buy a battery grip you wouldn't have that problem.

I don't believe the grip would be bigger then the bg-2 grip it's of course shorter so it might look more bulky.

I knew that was a concern for most so paid attention on that.
To be honest when you look at the camera it doesn't look a lot smaller and it doesn't feel small but if you set it beside the K20D you see the difference though. I didn't had it beside the K-M but it looked almost to be the same size.

So the K-M and then with the K20D grip, weight and quality that's how I would describe it.

It wouldn't surprise me that if you open the K20D battery that you'll find two NIMH AA batteries.
My batteries are still good but if I've a weak one I'll surely try that and see if I can switch them for higher capacity batteries.
Maybe the same is true for the K-7 batteries aswell.

Congratz Pete, they were all different and nice to look at to behonest.

About my image, it was all done in lightroom 2.3 you have the same options as Adobe Raw converter 5.3 if you don't know lightroom.
I didn't had the option to tonemap so couldn't do that, all was done within a raw converter so I can putt the settings back as the original and get the same image back.
I simply wanted to go full out here with the possibilities off RAW and that was what I did.
I would have wanted to pull the blue back a bit but I already posted it.

Two E-dials is very important one also and you almost never need to go inside the menu to change something, most things you will ever need are under a button or else it's two clicks away in the FN menu.

Oh and another thing... they said it didn't had a micophone

The batteries of the K-7 won't fit in the K10D since the battery compardment clearly follows the contour of the battery so those cliniderical shapes where as the K-7 battery is square.

Andy about the sport lens.
The Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 might not be trully it, I think you're still to short if they are figthing on the other side of the ring so maybe the DA*50-135 f/2.8 or Tamron/Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 would be more useful.
They are a bit more expensive though those lenses but they are very fine to have.
I've the DA*50-135 and it's my most used lens now, it a great range when doing portrait.

Yes the 70-300 will do very good outside certainly when you've a bit of sun. You can shoot bird with it, the kids playing soccer and things like that. It's a good lens and the DA55-300 is the best of the "budget" zoom lenses the Sigma is very close to that price so not really a option IMHO.
the Tamron is a lot cheaper and just as sharp as the Pentax one but you have the purple fringing problem.
That's an example of that.



It's quite easy to fix but you need to do that with almost every foto so if you want good photos straight out of the camera it wouldn't be the lens for you probable.

No thanks, it was easy to write.
Hopefully I didn't make to many mistakes in it

So Peter are you tempted to buy one?
I don't have a grip with the K10D but I think I'll get one for the K-7, depending on how big the grip is. Most of the time the camera lens on my wrist while I hold the lens and I prefer that to be under an angle.

oh btw, the battery is differend from shape but the contacts are the same so you can use the charger from the K10D and the K20D. The K-7 battry is really square while the K20D batteries have to clinderical shapes, so if the size is the same you might be able to fit the K20D batteries inside the K-7.

Alright I had a early K-7 demo model in my hands, it was older then the one use in the youtube video and the software wasn't so great and it had the K20D sensor in it... so yeah not really a K-7 to be honest and they had forgot to turn it off so the battery was dead when I wanted to play with it *sighs*

okay first of all the spirit level indicator is only an indicator so far as they could tell (at least with that demo model it was) it didn't straighten your photo automatically (most likely).

Okay I can't talk much about the software since that wasn't working and wasn't even finished so going to talk about how the camera is in your hands.

The camera had the DA*50-135 on it and the viewfinder was good not noticeable much better then that from the K10D but what I liked was that the information bar was better readable for me as a four eye (spectacles).

The K-7 doesn't appear to be a lot smaller and also isn't that in your hands and also the weight is the same. You do feel that the camera isn't that heigh because my pinky had more room to move but the grip was a bit better then the K10D and the controlls were all good rachable and I didn't miss the buttons and the grip on the left side.
The two buttons on the camera (iso & EV balance) are good reachable and not a problem at all. The AF button was for some a concern and also for me but since all the other buttons are quite flushed the AF button appears quite thick but when the camera is in your hands it wasn't a probelm at all. The AF button is almost in the same place as on the K10D so didn't need to search for that one and was good usable and I don't expect it to be a problem for anyone.
The top of the grip were the scroll wheel is does apear to be long certainly when you have it in your hands but still the scroll wheel is no problem to reach.
The need of pressing the button to rotate the mode-dial was not anoying for me, you could do it with one hand so it's something to get used too.
Also the magnesium body didn't feel a lot more durable then the K10D so that says alot about the high quality plastic that they used on the K10D.

There is only one point that might be a problem in use and that's the "rubber" cover of where the HDMI connection and some others are.
It's easy to make it loose but to get the rubber back in place might be a bit of an hassle. It's probable better and cheaper solution to make a weather prove cover and you don't use that very often so I don't see it as a problem really but something that might could have be done better.

So all in all I find the K-7 better in my hands as the K10D it didn't feel smaller so for all that worried about that it really isn't something to worry about. You might think it feel a bit slimmer but not smaller and I've long fingers so once again don't worry.
Also all the controlls were good at hand, just need to see how the FN buttons and the AF selection combo works.

Anymore questions?