Seems like George wants to reach his 5000 posts here in the forum with a bang and seems that he is surely heading that way
Have you shifted a gear yet George? Or you going to take a breather for a while? Perhaps have a cuppa and then come back with a vengeance again?

Honestly George, now this is just taking it a bit far. What does the fact that one doesn't manage to get the best out of gear that is older or requires deeper knowledge in the field do with one being a good photographer or not?

Analogy for this is once I had an american friend stay with me in London and I took him around driving around London in my manual gear car and in between conversation when the question asked was whether he enjoyed driving he said yes, but immediately said "oh but I wouldn't know how to drive a manual shift car". Well I am sure he could drive a manual shift gear but he just didn't want to even bother, but does that make him a bad or less of a driver in your eyes?
It seems that this is what you are trying to convey here, that either one can or are able to do that with older gear which requires certain manual inputs or you haven't still achieved the status of your class

I foresee a thread being stopped pretty soon now

thanks Martin, had a lot of fun with this one, and although this one is not so colourful but I think I nailed it from the point of view of focus. I am starting to enjoy more now and do not mind so much the mess in the end as I am starting to get slightly better results

Sorry people who have been with pentax DSLR for longer than 6 months but thought we should keep it fair so these are the only options.

Mikew

Now you have just cast an insult on to the beautifully designed body of the K20D. You are calling it a cat scarer?
Watchout for the repercurssions,
now...where is George? Has anyone seen him around?

By the way, how about a small survey on which member has the highest number of comments posted within a short period of time here, hmmm ideally we could set up a time and find for example within 10 minutes of any particular given period who has posted several comments
I have a suspicion it wouldn't be difficult to find a clear winner here

anyone wants to have a guess?

now why didn't I think of that

Great answer John.

Ok, anyone wanting to sell their longer reaching lens? Do pentax make a 500mm lens? Or how about a 600mm lens

The noise of the shutter release of my K20D is so loud that it scares the hell out of birds when I try to shoot them. I can't get closer to them and attempt more than one shot without them flying off.

So in the context of things and reading comments here I am wondering if its a reason enough for me to upgrade, either to a K7 or any other system if I like photographing wildlife . And would that make me a better photographer? Or improve my bird photography for that matter?

George I would really be keen in hearing your views on this as I have been following very closely your various arguments, particularly about the fact that a "better kit doesn't help you take better photographs, and its the person behind it"

Oh and before you or anyone goes on firing on full cylinders , please go easy, I am not disputing any of your facts, just seeking your views, so do not make preassumptions on the reasoning behind my question

George, the definition of impression according to the boffins is "a vague idea in which some confidence is placed"

Is that what really is when you say that its your impression?

oh noooo, one more

Gosh they keep on sprouting from nowhere

ikillrocknroll, please don't take this too hard ok? I am just joking, just trying to lighten up the mood as seems there are so many threads with such sombre topics being discussed