Gary

I am not sure about other makes but Canon for example display the cost of printing on their website including high end paper. I print on Fine Art paper on A3+ sizes and the costs which include ink and paper is well under £2. Its somewhere in this long review link

So I am assuming A4 sizes must be much cheaper.

So it all depends upon your individual needs and whether you will be printing a lot or not.
I do send images for printing to the printers but only A2 sizes and bigger.

Hope that helps

Precisely what it means literally.

I have just started printing at home so am unaware of the various problems faced when printing at home.

But Graham has very kindly put it down explaining the aspects that I was unaware of.

Did you have any difficulty understanding my question and comment by the way? I thought I did put it quite clearly what I meant. But may be my english is not that good and you got confused. Perhaps I should start replacing "s" with apostrophes then it might leave my intentions clear with what I mean

For me this outweighs all the other issues faced.
But I guess its up to each individual needs and requirements. For me personally being able to print at home at A3+ sizes and having full control of everything I do and the immediate results far outweighs the problems I would encounter.

I have what I assume, unless wrongly of course, an appropriate lens (DA*300 and DA*60-250) but with my K20 if I used AF to attempt to nail shots like this by the time the focus would be obtained the ball would have been within the goal posts. Unless I tried MF of course.

Also I wonder what crop factor has been applied to these images by the OP, because I suspect with ISO at 800 as they show there noise would be a big problem.

Any suggestions for better lens then or is the problem with the snapper then? I have stopped trying to take shots of my little ones walking even as they are most times OOF. They seem ok reduced size but the moment I blow them up 100% sharpness goes out of the window.

What is there to mess up with printing at home?
Am I missing something here? But hey, you will have to excuse my ignorance because I am just a newbie so bear with my ignorant comments

Thanks Amin

I thought cats dogs and horses could read, so they would know the name of the owner on the grave. , if they can count why can't they read? Just kidding , but I don't think it would require any special intelligence from the animals in order to realise relatives of the dead always kept visiting the same grave so they would have an instinct that someone close to them was buried there.

Dan I love this one, there is something about the sky colour and the light and shadows on the buildings that gives it that really nice beautiful lighting, without being intense nor too low.

I used tripod on all my shots but I am thinking if I can go around without it and take shots it will give me much more freedom. But goodness me, 0.7s I don't think I would manage that without camera shake.

Well, another visit is due then to London. Starting from the Towre bridge and working down west .

Thank you all for showing all those stunning shots.
Bob and I mean both of them you should pay a visit to London

That's a cracking shot Nathan, don't hold back please go on show us some more of those London shots at those hours. I take quite a lot by looking at them and then trying to work out what I could have done better in my poorly shots that I managed yesterday.

Well, to begin with I got to go there early and not dead at night

After playing with white balance as advised by Dan. I think I get the idea now, its the first time I put a bit of stress on white balance and i kind of like the capabilities that it provides . Should do it more often

Dan, that is one heck of a cracking shot. I went out looking for something like that but as you pointed out it was too late on the day. In fact it was past midnight yesterday when I took these ones.

So your advice is to get these shots when there is still light in the sky? Good, will plan another trip with my camera when I am due to be around the town late then.

Did try to fiddle with the white balance but it brings up a lot of noise, but to be honest didn't put too much effort into it. I will go back and see what it brings up.
It definitely loses out the warm colours and in the beginning I thought it would lose the impact but now looking at your image the lack of that warm glow and the incorporation of the whitish lights adds to the beauty.

Off to try with one of the shots then.

Bob, I thought of trying my hand with some outdoor shots as my portfolio of PPG is full of shots from my shed and a few of wildlife, before I get stuck with some nasty nick name linked with the shed and wildlife images . Have a few in my portfolio and not one of a landscape. Thought of remedying it . Hence trying some outdoor shots

Wales here I come , will drop you a line when I plan a trip Bob