It seems like literally every Pentax WR lens is taking compromises.

But comparing the 16-85 to others in about that range... Pentax still has the WR, and a bit of an advantage in size and weight. Compare the Pentax WR of that focal length to something such as the Sigma 24-70 f2.8 EX.

The Sigma doesn't have the range at either end of the focal lengths, but does have that aperture - another constant aperture lens from Sigma. The optical comparison in that noted range... Well, there is no comparison

I will still always make room for at least one Pentax WR lens in my gadget bag whenever possible; even if all of the other glass were Zeiss.

Hoping this is the correct thread to post this one under; it seemed the most appropriate. This one is still a work in progress; still pictures have not been posted yet, further links to still photographs, and even types of test results on video links. Should have the full results within about six weeks from the start of this topic posting.

For now, just the wording descriptions. The definitive proof will come later. Every attempt was made to keep the playing field as level as possible, but... There are cases where substitutions had to be made in items such as focal length comparison; between cropped sensors and even full frame sensors. This is all well documented and thoroughly made as obvious as possible.

The results will surprise a lot of people, even a lot of the true professionals and artists,

The best comparison... Showing completely unedited raw images on both printed and on screen. Printed to sizes of: 11x14, 24x36, and on a few examples up to 30x60. All commercially printed; using two labs, completely unedited. On screen images using: a Sharp 32" 4K Ultra HD LED Monitor, factory settings retained for all images.


A brief summary of still image comparison... (I won't mix words on this one) Using a variety of fixed focal length lenses and zoom lenses... Pentax K3, wins against: All existing Olympus models, all Fuji rangefinders and dslr's, all Panasonic models, Nikon 7100, Canon eos 7d mII, (even the full frame) Nikon Df.

Interesting because the Nikon Df and Canon eod 7d are literally double the price of the Pentax K3.


A considerably close call, in terms of still image comparison,,, The Pentax K3 compared to: Nikon d610, and Canon eos 6d.


Here is where the video gets more interesting; so far... Video showing uniform side by side comparison between the Pentax K3 to: Nikon D3x, Nikon D4s, and Canon eos 1dx. Video showing cameras operating to the point of failure, last one standing wins.

But, a point about the water resistance video... Pentax makes a few select versions of WR lenses such as (tested) the Pentax DA 24-40 and the DA 18-135, among many others. Canon also makes a few WR lenses such as the Canon EF 85 (as tested), noting it costs twice as much as any other Pentax lens, minus the Pentax extreme telephoto WR version. I could not locate ANY Nikon WR lenses as of yet.


Pentax in actions photographs: Pentax wins in both focus ability and frame rate against: Nixon D3x, Nikon D810, and Canon 5d mIII.


This one will be edited considerably as time goes along, and further results are published. Feel welcome to add ones comments and questions. The results will also serve to answer a lot of those questions.

Anyone happen to have either a definitive release date or even a general ballpark date for the...

Pentax HD PENTAX DA 16-85mm f/3.5-5.6 ED DC WR Lens ??

This will most likely be the second best WR lens which (once released) will be on the market for PK. Take a glance at that front filter size compared to the WR 2x zoom limited lens. Sincerely hoping the release date is this year

Uummm...

Water sealed?!?

NO

Water resistant, to a degree yes

Regardless of camera body hardware specs; megapixels, video, etc...

The items that are the best things about this camera body; the name and the PK lenses will bring more people into the longterm Pentax/Ricoh plans. At least in theory.

Sure this entry level camera is at the opposite spectrum from camera bodies such as the K3, but... If someone picks up and uses this entry level camera, and then adds some more Pentax glass onto that... Chances are they just might be a long term Pentax user, and they might just advance upon that in purchasing some more serious Pentax items.

Eurocom offers upgradeable laptops. It is to my understanding that even Eurocoms most entry level laptop is still fully upgradeable on almost all of it's internal components. Companies such as Xidax have also offer upgradeable laptops; although that particular company (Xidax) is one of the highest priced names on the market.

On a side note though... I have a Xidax which generates at least one BitCoin a month. So if anyone wants to trade, drop me a note

Thank you for the information on that one...

Unfortunately I have yet to make that discovery; unless perhaps... You might be willing to pass along a shameless plug for some of the airlines names.

I (fortunate or not??) spend at least a full month traveling throughout the Americas. This year they've somehow lost two tripods and three tripod heads, a laptop and iPad that were ""very interestingly** later traced "back" to whom had borrowed them - thanks American Feds.

But yes... I have personal examples of tactful run-ins with TSA and numerous airlines over restrictions. I'm almost forced into shipping ahead volumes of equipment and then gambling with it still getting there. Across the pond - I've had to re-buy items such as large format equipment and also even rent it

I would concur with Gwen on the "almost need for Windows" at that price point and all.

I would also evaluate ones price point in general. Consider that there are actual upgradeable laptops on the market. They are rare, a bit pricier even to start out with, but are really worth every penny in the end.

90%++ of all laptops on the market are not repairable for any reasonable amount of money; regardless if they happen to be covered by any type of warranty

PC version of a laptop OR Apple/Mac product?

Have Eurocom 12 core laptop server here; most of my other products are tri-boot were permitted.