Using SSD Drives


SteveEveritt

Link Posted 27/10/2015 - 21:47
WARNING!!!!!
Please be aware with SSD drives that you must switch off indexing and never defrag the drive
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tyronet2000

Link Posted 27/10/2015 - 22:05
SteveEveritt wrote:
WARNING!!!!!
Please be aware with SSD drives that you must switch off indexing and never defrag the drive

Thanks Steve, will try and gather all this sort of info before taking the plunge
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Stan

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Smeggypants

Link Posted 27/10/2015 - 22:50
SteveEveritt wrote:
WARNING!!!!!
Please be aware with SSD drives that you must switch off indexing and never defrag the drive

Well there's no actual point given it's a solid state drive
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Smeggypants

Link Posted 27/10/2015 - 22:54
richandfleur wrote:
SSD's are great. Single biggest performance gain you can get for the money.
Won't help with number crunching ability, but everything starts much quicker and feels much nicer to use.
One for the OS, one for the data.

Apart from loads of RAM.

For programs that use temp files like like Photoshop and Lightroom you wont' get faster than using a RAMDrive. . I have 4GB of my RAM setup as a RAM Drive and set it as temp file locations in any programs that use them
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richandfleur

Link Posted 28/10/2015 - 01:45
Smeggypants wrote:
richandfleur wrote:
SSD's are great. Single biggest performance gain you can get for the money.
Won't help with number crunching ability, but everything starts much quicker and feels much nicer to use.
One for the OS, one for the data.

Apart from loads of RAM.

For programs that use temp files like like Photoshop and Lightroom you wont' get faster than using a RAMDrive. . I have 4GB of my RAM setup as a RAM Drive and set it as temp file locations in any programs that use them

For the average user, adding RAM will be a diminishing returns exercise.
If it's too small, like say anything under 4Gb then adding more RAM will free it up, and allow programs to run better

Past that though it contributes less and less performance gains the more you have.

Unless you proceed as you're suggesting and make a virtual drive out of spare ram. Indirectly though, that's kinda what an SSD is anyway...

McGregNi

Link Posted 28/10/2015 - 08:16
It's still connected with a cable through, isn't it, so transfer speeds would be slower than RAM, I'd assumed .... ?
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Algernon

Link Posted 28/10/2015 - 11:07
The biggest boost would probably be to put your Windows swapfile on the RamDisk.

I've used a RamDisk ever since the old Sinclair QL days. Great for temporary unzipping editing odd pics for posting etc.

I use this one Free up to 4GB. I think Smeggy uses the same. I only use a 500MB one.

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Tyr

Link Posted 28/10/2015 - 14:52
Algernon wrote:
The biggest boost would probably be to put your Windows swapfile on the RamDisk.

I've used a RamDisk ever since the old Sinclair QL days. Great for temporary unzipping editing odd pics for posting etc.

I use this one Free up to 4GB. I think Smeggy uses the same. I only use a 500MB one.

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Swapfile? Just turn it off and use loads of RAM! I've had no need for a swap file since going to 16GB RAM.
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Algernon

Link Posted 28/10/2015 - 15:34
A lot of experts don't like the idea of no swapfile.

http://www.howtogeek.com/126430/htg-explains-what-is-the-windows-page-file-and-s...

My idea of moving it to RamDisk is also a bit flaky because everything would be lost in a crash and hibernation wouldn't work.

https://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/office/en-US/45cf03fe-e9b6-47a2-9214...

Probably better to just move it off the SSD and onto the HDD or another small SSD to save wear on the main SSD .

http://www.eightforums.com/performance-maintenance/34544-possible-move-swapfile-...

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Last Edited by Algernon on 28/10/2015 - 15:41

robbiec

Link Posted 28/10/2015 - 17:17
A nice starter guide to optimising your flash setup
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richandfleur

Link Posted 28/10/2015 - 17:45
McGregNi wrote:
It's still connected with a cable through, isn't it, so transfer speeds would be slower than RAM, I'd assumed .... ?

Yes, not saying it's the same, but SSD's are genuinely fast in their own right. Fast enough is what I'm getting at.

SSD's are so cheap these days that it's a no brainer, and actually very easy to do also. They come with the software required to move your OS onto the SSD. The improvements are massive for the little cost involved.

Smeggypants

Link Posted 28/10/2015 - 23:22
richandfleur wrote:
Smeggypants wrote:
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SSD's are great. Single biggest performance gain you can get for the money.
Won't help with number crunching ability, but everything starts much quicker and feels much nicer to use.
One for the OS, one for the data.

Apart from loads of RAM.

For programs that use temp files like like Photoshop and Lightroom you wont' get faster than using a RAMDrive. . I have 4GB of my RAM setup as a RAM Drive and set it as temp file locations in any programs that use them

For the average user, adding RAM will be a diminishing returns exercise.
If it's too small, like say anything under 4Gb then adding more RAM will free it up, and allow programs to run better

Past that though it contributes less and less performance gains the more you have.

Unless you proceed as you're suggesting and make a virtual drive out of spare ram. Indirectly though, that's kinda what an SSD is anyway...

SSD is way slower than RAM
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Smeggypants

Link Posted 28/10/2015 - 23:26
Algernon wrote:


My idea of moving it to RamDisk is also a bit flaky because everything would be lost in a crash and hibernation wouldn't work.


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I had windows XP from 2002 to 2010 on my previous computer. It never crashed. ( yes some programs crashed from time to time but the OS didn't )

I've had Win 7 on my current machine since 2010. I think WIn 10 has crashed maybe once. ( as before some programs have crashed from time to time, btu rarely, but the OS didn't ).

If the program crashes, but the OS doesn't you can copy any temp files from RAMdisk to HD
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Last Edited by Smeggypants on 28/10/2015 - 23:26

tyronet2000

Link Posted 29/10/2015 - 08:09
I'm still chugging along quite nicely and think I'll just leave my computer as it is. Ok it takes it's time to boot up then I have to waste a second or two shutting down thw Win 10 dialogue box. Think my money will be better spent on a new lens. Thanks for all the input to my original query
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Stan

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Algernon

Link Posted 29/10/2015 - 10:22
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Last Edited by Algernon on 29/10/2015 - 10:23
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